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Thread ID: 44638	2004-04-25 06:47:00	Self-built Computers.	metla (154)	Press F1

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231997	2004-04-26 09:17:00	Indeed, as noted the word assemble would have fit better then build. This thread was started not because i think that people shouldn't assemble their own systems, but I chose a viewpoint and used it as a catalyst to promote debate on the issue. This was instigated by me sitting here shaking my head thinking that some people just get way in over their heads based on the common concept that anyone can do it. And they can, provided they know what the components are,where they fit, and that due care is taken. Provided that is taken care of problems only need arise if they have had the bad luck to have purchased a faulty component, that’s when the real issues start and people get into trouble seeing as they have forgone any support by purchasing parts rather a working computer.	metla (154)
231998	2004-04-26 09:20:00	I think building a pc for the first time - and having someone to lookout for you, especially when you notice that wierd burning smell - is a ton of fun. why be a windows wiz if you don't know about the hardware? :P I think most good techs with experiance would be happy to help someone build a pc ( time avaliable ) as long as the person doing the building is learning! Building a pc starts with a wish list and THEN comes the research :D Actually building it is the easy part... it's the OS install etc... THATS when the fun starts ;) :)	zminos (5010)
231999	2004-04-26 09:28:00	Do you by any chance still have the computer godfather? If you don't mind me being nosy,a pic or link to a similar system would be of interest. And what year would it have been?(is that getting too nosy?)	metla (154)
232000	2004-04-26 09:42:00	> This springs to mind..... > > “Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. > Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a > lifetime” More like this Give a man a fish, and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and get rid of him on weekends :D but back on topic. I would much rather buy from Dell, and customize the computer, and get a warrenty, knowing if it dosn't work, it's their fault. I get satisfaction helping out someone else here	Megaman (344)
232001	2004-04-26 09:56:00	> Do you by any chance still have the computer > godfather? No, sold it a couple of years after I built it. That was well before the days of digital camera's and scanners... Trying to think when it was, it was certainly prior to the IBM PC in 1981 but not a lot before. Probably 1979 - 1980? It used a TV as a monitor, via an on-board RF modulator (made for early video games). Cassette tape storage. Only input was a home made serial UART RS232 port. I remember building in full opto-isolation but that made it very slow as well. Programming was by machine language, using an interpreter written for another project by someone in Australia, and modified for this hardware. I had to buy a lot of the hardware componentry in Australia as it simply was not available here.	godfather (25)
232002	2004-04-27 08:43:00	I have found this thread intriguing. Dare I say, stimulating. In a positive sharing all-encompassing kind of way, you understand. So, does anyone have any suggestions for a reliable link for building a computer? Also purchasing the right parts from one reputable supplier seems sensible. But, what exactly are the right parts? Are there as many opinions as there are manufacturers? These are very murky waters for a neophyte so members advice is very valuable. What do you think?	Winston001 (3612)
232003	2004-04-27 09:11:00	You know what? I built my computer . It works fine . The only thing that ever went wrong was the stuff that you can't learn . I'd been studying computers and had been extremely interested for years, and I knew all the tricks . I'd been to courses and sat exams . (And I still am, for things such as networking) . What I had been told, was how the computers worked . So i bought everything . But how was I supposed to know that my type of motherboard a) needed a definitive bios upgrade before continuing to work, b) managed to be the only motherboard that had a nasty hatred of my type of hard drive (it turns out i was the first of many to have this luck, check this thread on which I posted when the problem first arrived : . hardwareanalysis . com/content/topic/17320/" target="_blank">www . hardwareanalysis . com ) . c) I then needed to go to unknown sites where unofficial drivers would be the only way in which I could get windows to work without dying within a week . Nothing can train you for this but experience, and building your own computer is the only way to get it . I didnt get too much help from here as I recall, only people complaining that I messed up and was complaining to the wrong place . I do, however, understand what you mean . It seems that many go in unprepared . Too unprepared . Though it is easy, it isn't that easy - you definitely need the basics .	Growly (6)
232004	2004-04-27 09:54:00	yeah Growly... I agree.... like "if you spend the money? spend time" kind of thing really? lol :)	zminos (5010)
232005	2004-04-27 12:52:00	People need to do it at least once though . It's a great way to learn . If one stuffs up, they stuff up . If they can't get their system up and running then they go to places like this, thats cool . It's good for the learning curve . And once their system is racing along like the wind then they can sit back and admire their work :- . o 0 (should I turn it on . . . nah, I'll just stare at it!)	aNtzy (4070)
232006	2004-04-27 21:40:00	should people build their own computers? should people build their own cars? should people build their own houses? some say no, some say yes. I say it's their money and their time, so long as they accept responsibility for any mistakes and learn from those mistakes (along with givens such as law abiding) then they can do whatever they want. Obviously people who DIY do it for a reason such as interest/learning, saving money, or maybe, just maybe, they know what the hell they're doing. Despite popular belief, not every systems manufacturer has a clue. I've serviced some real horrors with brandnames on them, some of the worst have come from joe.retailer running a business from his house. (admittedly some of the best I've seen have come from other joe.retailers) Everyone has to start somewhere, and if you prevent them from getting to the starting line, they'll never get anywhere. An IT industry completely void of competent systems designers/builders.. wouldnt that be fun? :D	whetu (237)
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