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233420 2004-05-01 05:25:00 Thank goodness it’s raining and I was getting boared. :D A mate just dropped of his computer, which he assures me wont start. Too true. It gets as far as:
Verifying DMI Pool Data………….
Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM: No Bootable CD in CD-ROM

And hangs with a flashing cursor.

OK, I try booting from a Win98 floppy boot disk and running scandisk on drive c:

Unfortunately I get the following message: Scandisk encountered a data error while reading the FAT on drive C: This error prevents scandisk from fixing this drive.

Ohhhhh, bugger! :(

The possibilities of a virus occurred to me so I think I’ll try and run NAV off the CD but get told NAV can’t be run from DOS mode! Oh goodie!

What do I do now team? :)
B.M. (505)
233421 2004-05-01 05:38:00 Just wondering why it is trying to boot from a CDROM rather than the HDD, does it detect the HDD, if it has one? Tobas (224)
233422 2004-05-01 05:49:00 Don't think it can see it Tobas. :( and it is moving on to find something bootable?

I get the feeling the FAT tables are corrupt. Well is that not what it is trying to tell us?????

Maybe the HDD has a physical failure? It's just that I've not been down this road before. :)
B.M. (505)
233423 2004-05-01 05:57:00 > Maybe the HDD has a physical failure?

Can you take the HDD out and connect it to your computer as a slave and see if the drive can be read .
Davesdad (923)
233424 2004-05-01 06:00:00 In the BIOS, check the boot order includes the hard drive.

Then try running the auto-detect hard drive option. It should detect something.
bmason (508)
233425 2004-05-01 06:25:00 Might have to Davesdad, just checking what I should be doing first. :)

Interesting, if I type dir/p at the dos prompt derived from the boot floppy I get the directory plus 17 File(s) 1,368,581 bytes
14 Dir(s) 7,320.62 MB free

Now the way that free space is written looks odd to me??
B.M. (505)
233426 2004-05-01 22:40:00 Ok, update .

Did as you suggested Davesdad . Pulled out the HDD, changed the jumper to slave, installed it in mine, (Hell I hate touching something that's working fine) :D set the cmos and let it run .

OK, the bios recognised the new slave and I think identified it correctly .
However, as windows loaded, up comes the message "One or more of your drives may have bad sectors, run scandisk" Yes, well I've been trying to do that but it wont run . Complains there is a data error that it cant fix! :(

So, had another brainwave and thought I'd try SystemWorks Disk Doctor .

Looked promising, then up flashes the message "Cant write to disk, all data may be lost, press any key to continue" :(

Soooo, I'm developing the distinct impression that I might be experiencing my first HDD failure .

Did I detect some of you thinking I hope Bob's mate has got everything backed up? Well, where we have a wee problem because not one byte has been backed up . Installation disks? Hmmmmm, don't know if I ever got any? Might have thrown them out with all the other junk that came with the computer .

As the Tui add says "Yeah Right" :D
B.M. (505)
233427 2004-05-02 00:24:00 Here is an idea:

Seen you got that hdd drive plug in to yours, boot in to your own hdd drive, then via windows explore try accessing the other hdd & see if you can see any data, if you can, then have a look around & see if you can backup any of the data have a look here -
pressf1.pcworld.co.nz
(Note: this FAQ might be a wee bit slow loading) for a list of thing that you might want to try & backup

Good luck :)
stu120404 (268)
233428 2004-05-02 03:50:00 Can you get a DOS directory of the disk on your computer? If so you should be able to copy any or all files off it with xcopy and you'll have a backup. It will cough on files in any bad areas, but you should be able to use the "Ignore" option.

Then a format ...
Graham L (2)
233429 2004-05-02 06:20:00 Try doing:

fdisk /mbr

From the boot CD - will repair the Master Boot Record only if no master boot record exists. Might get it to boot.
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
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