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| 234896 | 2004-05-09 21:09:00 | > Quite a few who visit here have the dse XH1149 router and found it to be very good, including me That'd be because you've never experienced anything superior. If you had, you would know that any router with the brand DSE on it is far inferior to some of the other stuff you can buy. |
KingWave (5517) | ||
| 234897 | 2004-05-09 21:20:00 | "get any adsl modem"? yeah right, I got that from telecom too ( setting it up for a client ). So I get a internal dynalink ( pci ) take it to the clients set it up, 7 days later they get the tech installing the line and then an e-mail ( that cost them $2 an hour to use their old dial-up ) that had their log-on and pasword. Set that up and for two days the modem wouldn't get out of training mode and when it did allow any browser on the net it was only for a few minutes at best? Then the customer circus started.... two hours on the telephone of which maybe and hour and a half of it was on hold, to eventually be told "everything looks fine from our end, it must be a problem with your pc/operating system or the magnetic field" - okay skip the magnetic field. By then my client and I are starting to get a little pissed about the whole thing, so up the chain we go, more time on hold, and eventually get told "oh you're not using dynalink are you? we don't recommend dynalink, we suggest you get anything from alcatel!! that's what we use for all our exchanges for example and alcatel adsl modems are in our connection packs". I was thinking if the jetstream people don't recommend dynalink? then why the hell are they telecom approved? they have stickers on the dynalink boxes saying to be used with jetstream? and I couldn't FIND any retail place in short notice online that HAD alcatel modems either in stock or even for sale? Then the brightsparks suggest maybe I can take the modem back and get a router?? great now I have to go back to the store and tell their own techs that "telecom don't suggest using dynalink for jetstream, and they recommend I exchange the pci for a router" Thank god they let me exchange it saying "we're going to look into this, as we don't think dynalink will be happy to hear this" and I get a dynalink router, $140 becomes $290 and still no assurance it'll get my client online and connected to jetstream. Get to the clients place - plug in the power and connect the line to the jack, elected to connect it to the pc via USB, install the drivers etc, setup the log-on and pasword for jetstream, lock off access to the router with admin pasword and re-boot - all of about 5 minutes max. The clients happy they're on line, and it's download QCD in 1 min 10, I'm happy the friggin thing works, and I didn't need to install a NIC. :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 234898 | 2004-05-09 21:53:00 | Jack, this has been covered in your other thread. The fact appears to be, that for marginal signal areas, external ethernet connected routers perform better than internal ADSL modems, as was confirmed by Peter Coleman (who provides technical on site service for Telecom I believe). You can either belive this, or ignore it. Its your choice. |
godfather (25) | ||
| 234899 | 2004-05-09 21:59:00 | my client is probably 300m max from the exchange... distance would not appear to be a problem? but now I'd just recommend a router to anyone. especially if you're not used to installing pci stuff etc. :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 234900 | 2004-05-09 23:01:00 | You took a risk using USB if a PCI card was dodgy, ethernet every time as far as I'm concerned. Re Telecoms brand advice, there's nothing wrong with Alcatel gear AFAIK but I doubt a one of their PCI cards would have performed any better than a Dynalink in the circumstances. There appears to be some commercial agenda muddying the waters. What happens if they go back to Nokia (still plenty of Nokia gear in exchanges AFAIK) or something else? Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 234901 | 2004-05-10 03:03:00 | I agree. Dynalink seem to have a bad name with Telecom techies and I can't understand why> telecom have a contract with Alcatel hence them pushing that product. I have Dynalink gear and it works great, i've had the same speil from telecom about how crap Dynalink is but the guy that I deal with at dynalink "ryan" is great and always has answers for my queries. | hoopzta (150) | ||
| 234902 | 2004-05-10 07:02:00 | In my experience, I had to plug it in, and turn it on . When I did it for others, it was alot more complicated . It really depends on the model . I know that the DSE ones come with comprehensive and easy to understand guides . And i say "rowter" . It sounds cooler . The only unfortunate thing is that it came from the silly Americans . |
Growly (6) | ||
| 234903 | 2004-05-10 07:30:00 | > > Quite a few who visit here have the dse XH1149 > router and found it to be very good, including me > > That'd be because you've never experienced anything > superior. If you had, you would know that any router > with the brand DSE on it is far inferior to some of > the other stuff you can buy. care to elaborate, KingWave? |
Jester (13) | ||
| 234904 | 2004-05-10 08:47:00 | I know some of DSEs gear is simply re-branded asus for example.... in some cases I'd rate DSE gear from a cost vs performance point of view. :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 234905 | 2004-05-11 00:06:00 | Not only can't the Americans pronounce French words ( though I must say they get it right in the tune "Get your kicks on Route (root) 66" ), it is also surprising that they cant even pronounce German words, even though they have a massive ethnic Germanic derived population. I believe at one time German almost came near to being their national language. They mix up the ie and ei, so for example, 'stein' pronounced 'shtine' becomes 'steen', as in the Ira 'Goldsteen' TV advertisement :), and Rotweiler becomes Rotwheeler and so on....... "You say 'either' and I say 'either'.........(Ira Gershwin*)" The big pity of global 'Americanisation' of the english language is that with changed spelling and 'mispronunciation' :), the derivation of words from the rich heritage of many sources gets lost. *Song: Let's Call the Whole Thing Off You say "either" and I say "either" You say "neither" I say "neither" "Either" "either", "neither" "neither" Let's call the whole thing off You say "potato," I say "patattah" You say "tomato", I say "creole tomata" Oh, let's call the whole thing off Oh, if we call the whole thing off Then we must part and oh If we ever part, that would break my heart So, I say "ursta" you say "oyster" I'm not gonna stop eatin' urstas just cause you say oyster, Oh, let's call the whole thing off Oh, I say "pajamas", you say "pajamas" Sugar, what's the problem? Oh, for we know we need each other so We'd better call the calling off off So let's call it off, oh let's call it off Oh, let's call it off, baby let's call it off Sugar why don't we call it off, I'm talking baby why call it off Call it off¡* Let's call the whole thing off |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
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