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Thread ID: 45023	2004-05-06 13:35:00	ATI....Nvidia.......Ouch!	metla (154)	Press F1

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234812	2004-05-06 22:47:00	I think the main thing that sets them apart is not that the ATI card is slightly faster, its that it is smaller and cooler. Even if the ATI card was a bit slower than the Nvidia one, it would still be better with those qualities of being smaller and cooler. Why can Nvidia not do this? Is it some technological thing that they have not sorted out yet? I agree with whover it was with the 5700. Even though that is considered a mid range card, i see it as a high end card for me, currently with a geforce 2 mx. Still, its interesting to read about ATI whipping Nvidia once again.	mejobloggs (264)
234813	2004-05-06 23:09:00	> > I didnt at any point in that post make a > > recomendation,once the cards are on the market and > > depending on price and availability i won't hesitate > > to make recomendations to those that ask. > I did not say you did in this thread. Talking about strokes though ( not > egos ). It's different strokes for differerent folks. Yes you did, read below. > Good to know that you can recommend graphic cards > without having actually tried the card. We can all > read reviews. Put your money where your mouth is!!! Melta's post was merely saying a new Ati card had just been released on the market that will put Nivida newly released cards to shame. > For me I just use a 5700 card. I don't use serious > games like Far cry etc. What I do use in the way of > games is MSFlight Sim 2004, Crimson Skies, Links > Golf. All of these when I get the time. The Video > card cost me around $300 > > Not all people on PressF1 need fancy video cards do > they? True, so at which point you got the feeling that Melta's is pushing or saying that everyone should get one of the super dupa display card? Like you said yourself, you don't play serious 3D games and you're happy with your 5700. What about those people that does play serious games who also want top frame rate + picture quality? And there's the "I must have factor" whether need or no need, some people will buy it regardless. Cheers	SKT174 (1319)
234814	2004-05-07 00:27:00	I think the purpose of this thread was initially to draw attention to the very competitive and rapidly advancing video card battles between ATI and Nvidia. Many people that read this forum will be interested in the latest news and reviews, but not everyone has the time to go out and find the articles themselves. Thumbs up to Metla for drawing attention to it and offering an opinion. It's nice to come to a forum and discuss the latest advances in technology with like-minded individuals. Although there are a lot of people out there who probably don't need a high end card, it doesn't mean they don't want to keep up with what is going on.	Sb0h (3744)
234815	2004-05-07 00:32:00	Referring back to the original post....you'd have to wonder what magic ATI is going to produce when they pull the stops out and produce a new design.	Sb0h (3744)
234816	2004-05-07 06:08:00	> I think the purpose of this thread was initially to > draw attention to the very competitive and rapidly > advancing video card battles between ATI and Nvidia. > Many people that read this forum will be interested > in the latest news and reviews, but not everyone has > the time to go out and find the articles themselves. > Thumbs up to Metla for drawing attention to it and > d offering an opinion. It's nice to come to a forum > and discuss the latest advances in technology with > like-minded individuals. Well said :-) Good on you. Thanks to Metla for the heads up on this, I'd not heard of it. Thanks to Elephant, for adding some spice to the life of those who want it without realising Thanks to IDG for your forum, your support for me through this journey to get this Award has been much appreciated Thanks to my mother, father, family..... *Chill realises that he, like others, needs to get outside once in a while.... ;-) Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
234817	2004-05-07 06:38:00	More of us should have Chilling Silence's attitude, theres no need to take everything personally then get worked up over it!	RobbyW (5226)
234818	2004-05-07 08:03:00	i dont know how you can say that ATI has whooped nvidia this time around i actually see much the same sort of stats if not more pronounced this time around, ie ATI wins in direct 3d games and Nvidia ownz in open gl games, in some of the reviews i saw the 6800GT ( a lower end 6800) even outpaced the x800 XT in a couple of tests, so please dont go saying the Nvidia has once again been fully and totally beaten, as this time around the performance stats are soooo much closer	robert6655 (5176)
234819	2004-05-07 08:52:00	Heh, yes, I have just read some other reviews. It seems some of them aimed at one particular card. Biased or something, is that the word? I just read that Nvidia supports pixel shader 3 or something, whereas ATI does not.	mejobloggs (264)
234820	2004-05-07 09:24:00	> i dont know how you can say that ATI has whooped > nvidia this time around i actually see much the same > sort of stats if not more pronounced this time > around, ie ATI wins in direct 3d games and Nvidia > ownz in open gl games, in some of the reviews i saw > the 6800GT ( a lower end 6800) even outpaced the x800 > XT in a couple of tests, so please dont go saying the > Nvidia has once again been fully and totally beaten, > as this time around the performance stats are soooo > much closer well they complety whipped them from an eginering perspective,and the card is superior in 90 percent of real worl applications.Opengl does have suport but nothing like DX does. Not that its any skin off my nose,ill be going for the best performing card in my price range,which i can garentee wont be the top end. As to the stats being close,well apart from a few months where nvidia lagged behind the stats have largely been so close that no one would notice without extensive benchmarking. Much more to the issue then just performance benchmarks.	metla (154)
234821	2004-05-07 09:31:00	> i dont know how you can say that ATI has whooped > nvidia this time around i actually see much the same > sort of stats if not more pronounced this time > around, ie ATI wins in direct 3d games and Nvidia > ownz in open gl games, in some of the reviews i saw > the 6800GT ( a lower end 6800) even outpaced the x800 > XT in a couple of tests, so please dont go saying the > Nvidia has once again been fully and totally beaten, > as this time around the performance stats are soooo > much closer Bear in mind everyone, that this guy has a rather large bias towards nvidia!	RobbyW (5226)
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