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Thread ID: 45316 2004-05-18 06:38:00 Upgrade vs New Computer ephesus (2509) Press F1
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237509 2004-05-18 11:45:00 First you need to sort out your usage. Is it to be a gaming machine or do you just use office app's, email and surfing the net. There is a big difference in the spec's, price and how much your existing system with say another HDD and some more ram or a new video card will last (you have enough ram for most things now even though it's not the fastest).

Personally, I tend to favour upgrading. That's because I'm a stinge and like fiddling with the left overs to make/upgrade up another (lesser) box. But I hardly ever by the latest and greatest bleeding edge gear either so, compatibility, bugs and price are usually ironed out before it gets in my machines.

Sort your needs first then your wants and count up the costs. If your going to get a new motherboard (whether with a new box or as components) consider an AMD system even if only for cost comparison purposes.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
237510 2004-05-18 11:50:00 BTW, check out PriceSpy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz
) to compare shops/prices.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
237511 2004-05-18 11:56:00 Thanks, everyone for you comments. Just want a faster computer!!! But at a reasonable price and value for money. Don't really want to be paying for some technology that will be superceeded so soon - Thanks Highlander for your insight. Might see if I can get a 2.8 Northwood instead of Prescot. Does it make sense than to buy a 3.2 the if 2.8 is overclocked? Thanks again everyone for your valuable comments. ephesus (2509)
237512 2004-05-18 12:00:00 No matter what you buy it will be outdated in a few short months,i personally ignore the tech cycles completely and purchase whatevers in my budget. metla (154)
237513 2004-05-18 12:16:00 I would suggest you to buy a new system and keep the current box as a second pc just in case your new system goes on strike (who knows) and you are finalising your assignment or some other important project to be completed. Of course, you may also sell it to raise some money for getting something better for the new machine.

I am not in favour of up-grading your present machine.
bk T (215)
237514 2004-05-18 12:17:00 I quite agree that overclocking can be a hairy business but only when you are going at it really hairy chested. Gigabyte and asus boards(and probably a few others) offer idiot proof overclocking options (asus through the bios and gigabyte through a programe on the motherboard install cd)
want a 5% overclock select it and it happens 10%? same story any more and its a lottery and you need to work the bios properly. To cut along story short, I have overclocked 2 friends comps usng the asus board and 2.8 northwoods to 3.07 (from memory) in under 30 seconds and both are completely stable and have been for 2 months with little increase in heat output. Now they are not going to notice a sad 10% increase in real life applications but they like it simply for posing value ' Hey I got a 3 gig cpu blah blah blah'
Save the price difference between a 3.2 and 2.8 and indulge yourself in something else.
note havent tried with a prescott so can't offer an opinion
the highlander (245)
237515 2004-05-18 12:32:00 Overclocking, indeed, is a tricky business that can go terribly wrong.

As somebody already mentioned http://www.pricespy.co.nz is a good place to start when buying new hardware.

God knows how I got my P75 to run at P120 though. I haven't attempted any overclocking since... too scary...
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
237516 2004-05-19 02:56:00 > God knows how I got my P75 to run at P120 though. I haven't attempted any overclocking since... too scary...

Looks like somebody is growing up. ;-)

Where has your sense of adventure gone, SY? :p :D
Susan B (19)
237517 2004-05-19 06:11:00 > > God knows how I got my P75 to run at P120 though.
> I haven't attempted any overclocking since... too
> scary...
>
> Looks like somebody is growing up. ;-)
>
> Where has your sense of adventure gone, SY? :p :D

Sad but true... no sense of adventure these days. School examination in 2 weeks from today, external exams about 5 months away.:_|

Believe it or not, its been just over 1 year since I decided I should build a new PC for myself, before this one falls apart. And guess what... no progress to date, I'm almost about to give up.:8}

Who said teens today are better off today than a few decade ago? Can't wait to get in the workforce...... :D
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
237518 2004-05-20 06:34:00 > <If thats DDR400 ram you would make sure it was a
> dual channel kit and you definitely don't get a GB of
> ram if its not CL2.
>
> Its Its not dual channel. Sales guy says no
> difference...

Does the sales guy know what sort of motherboard you have? If it can handle dual channel ram then it will certainly make a huge difference to memory access performance.
I know from doing trials when I was having issues with memory that would not run at full speed in Dual channel and put then in different slots to see if it was a bad chip and the difference was about a 40% speed reduction in memory access.

Sales guys tend not to know very much and are out just to sell things. Technical guys are the ones you really want to talk to first. Then go and tell the sales guys what you want.
Big John (551)
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