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| Thread ID: 45314 | 2004-05-18 05:17:00 | Router Question? which to buy | Rob99 (151) | Press F1 |
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| 237407 | 2004-05-21 00:50:00 | > > > Stay away from: > > > > DSE > > D-Link > > > > And any other cheap routers going for under $200. > > Kiki, why? I have a DSE ADSL router that I am very > pleased with. It's reliable, connects well, manages > the network traffic here without problems and was > very easy to configure. Oh, and it was below $200, > and DSE support with online drivers, help and > in-store satisfaction guarantee is very good. > > Someone else said the same thing as you a while back > and I challenged him then as to why, but he never > replied. Just wondering what you base your opinion > on, cheers > > J > :D > I've found their routers to be poor quality personally, they overheat, have a poor web admin layout, are very pricy for what they are, and aren’t widely used, (so if you try and do anything outside the square you’ll have problems). The DSE routers are basically a Puretek router with a new web admin skin and the NZ setting pre entered. Bear in mind that that is my personal opinion. Regards nz_liam |
nz_liam (845) | ||
| 237408 | 2004-05-21 12:56:00 | Thanks Guys I have purchased a D-Link DSL-302G and it looks pretty good, small USB + Ethernet. I will be plugging it in over the weekend, has anyone had experience with installing a central splitter, I see I can buy them from the shop for about 55 bucks. Would it be wise to install this myself, get a pro in, or get telecom to install one of theirs for over 100 bucks. Cheers Rob. |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 237409 | 2004-05-21 13:08:00 | If you can wire up the end of an extension lead then you can install a central splitter. Just make sure you don’t short anything out, because if you blow up your interface board in the exchange then you’re liable, but yes they are simple to install. Regards, nz_liam |
nz_liam (845) | ||
| 237410 | 2004-05-21 13:12:00 | Also, another option is to use filters, you can pick them up for about $8 each, so if you have less than 6 telephones plugged into jacks in the house, then that’s another option, (not to mention easier and cheaper). Regards, nz_liam :) |
nz_liam (845) | ||
| 237411 | 2004-05-21 13:37:00 | Thanks nz_liam It is for my father so I think I will have a crack at installing the central splitter myself, as he has an alarm also connected to the phone line. And if I blow thing up its aright, he lives on the other side of town to me so my phone should be aright. Rob ;\ |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 237412 | 2004-05-21 13:44:00 | Fair enough, if you did want to go for the filter option all you’d have to do is put a filter on the alarm . Depending on how its wired up you may just have to unplug it from the phone socket, and plug the filter in, then plug the alarm into the filter, otherwise you’d have to hardwire the filter in, and in which case you might as well install a splitter . Plus it is a lot more fun to install a splitter instead of plugging in a few filters :D (And you actually learn something useful ;):p) |
nz_liam (845) | ||
| 237413 | 2004-05-21 13:53:00 | > Kiki, why? I have a DSE adsl router that I am very pleased with. It's reliable, connects well, manages the network traffic here without problems and was very easy to configure. Oh, and it was below $200, and DSE support with online drivers, help and in-store satisfaction guarantee is very good. > Someone else said the same thing as you a while back and I challenged him then as to why, but he never replied. Just wondering what you base your opinion on, cheers Well I have tried quite a few routers personally. The DSE ones I tried ($100) would constantly overheat and drop all traffic on the LAN within 20mins. Usually you couldn't go for 10mins without it dying. I even tried another new router of the same model, that had the same problems! D-Link, tried a few models of that. Drops ISP connection usually after 24hours and when it re-makes the connection it makes the connection go at 1/10 the speed requiring a full power off & on. Also it took about 10 attempts to get it connecting at all sometimes. The web interface is terrible and unintuitive in comparison to other routers. One in particular I used died constantly making my connection slow and I updated the firmware, went through emailing tech support and have since sent it back for a refund - not replacement. If you aren't having many problems with yours it may be because: a) you aren't running 4 computers on the LAN off it b) you don't have SPI enabled and actively scanning each packet c) you aren't actively routing mass traffic to the computers by virtual servers, DMZ or VPN. Mine has about 10ports forwarded to the machines with traffic going through on a consistant basis. d) no web content or filtering turned on e) if you have a wireless router, you have even more computers running wireless connections off that. With even some of those functions enabled that is a high CPU overhead for the router and its easy to see why cheap ones won't perform like they should. Someone said they would swap D-Link with Dynalink?? Absolutely not! While Dynalink are a small outfit, the D-Link ones pale in comparison to their ability. I ran Jetstart off my RTA300 router for over 4months with 4 computers, SPI, multiple virtual servers without one hiccup of any kind. never one reboot because it wasn't working properly. Now to count the times I've had to reboot the D-Link router, that would be nearing 100 times. To make matters worse, they don't provide an on/off switch, you have to physically unplug/replug the cord in at the back. :O Cisco and US Robotics make some of the best routers in the world. It wouldn't be hard to assume Linksys (their products for home users, rather than business) would be any different. As I said before its a case of you get what you pay for. Cheap routers are not worth the hours you waste on them trying to get them working. If your time is money, you would end up wasting more money on a cheap router than on one that works properly and has 100% uptime. If you have a DSE or D-Link router in your posession, may God save your soul :) |
kiki (762) | ||
| 237414 | 2004-05-21 14:03:00 | If what you are saying is a big very very big NO to D-Link, then buggar :( |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 237415 | 2004-05-21 14:19:00 | Well I haven’t had any problems with the D-Link DSL-500, but truth be told I never maxed it out. I had a D-Link PCI modem in a Win 2K Back office server box, and that ran without a hitch for about a year, with 30-40 GB of traffic going though it every month, (the box was replaced at the end of the year). Though personally I do like Linksys as most of their routers are based on open source software, and they provide developer kits, so there are lots of mod's available, Linksys are also pretty cheap :) As for Dynalink, well, I'd never go there again, I know their Auckland product manager quite well, he's a really nice chap, but after the driver issues I had with the USB interface, well never again, (yes I know you should use the LAN interface, but they provide a USB one and it should work), not to mention the absolutely horrible reception I got from tech support down the line, I found them to be very sub standard. And yes, if you can afford Cisco go for it, I’m pretty sure they line the inside of their cases with 24 carat gold, well judging by the price anyway. :D:p That’s my 2 cents worth anyway, I have to be up at 7 so I should head off. :) |
nz_liam (845) | ||
| 237416 | 2004-05-21 21:42:00 | Thanks for your replies Laim and Kiki - much appreciated :) I guess it comes down to individual preferences and experiences. I personally recommend the DSE XH1149 unit. Kiki, for my set-up >a) you aren't running 4 computers on the LAN off it I have three running all the time, two XP's and one win 95 (used to run printer and for file backups). I have currently a win 98 machine hooked up too that I am trying to sell, that has been going most days too. We often run LANs at home for gaming, and have up to 10 PC's connected - via two more 4 port hubs running off the router. >b) you don't have SPI enabled and actively scanning each packet SP1 is installed on both XP PCs >c) you aren't actively routing mass traffic to the computers by virtual servers, >DMZ or VPN. Mine has about 10ports forwarded to the machines with traffic >going through on a consistant basis. I have configured virtual ports for DC++, games and remote access >d) no web content or filtering turned on Not really sure whether this is on or not lol >e) if you have a wireless router, you have even more computers running wireless connections off that Not a wireless set up Thanks again guys :D |
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