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1363158 2013-12-20 08:56:00 I got a file problem
I have about 2000 files that I need to randomize.

The random function on most stereos is crap, they tend to pick a selection and then cycle them so most of the tracks are never played.
So instead of using this function I would rather play the tracks 1 to 2000 but I need them fixed so I do not play an entire album at a time.

How can I do this quick and easily?
DeSade (984)
1363159 2013-12-20 10:13:00 The Random, or shuffle function is on the player generally.

Guess the question is what are you actually playing the songs on, what format and from what. If its a computer then there's lots of choices, if its a stand alone stereo then you are very limited ?

One option we have here ( apart from the media Center) is to plug in a laptop to the stereos speakers, fire up WMP, load music tracks from the server, set playing and select shuffle. works a treat. :) BBQ's are interesting sometimes, one minute playing easy listening then the next can be almost anything from rock, metal, comedy you name it.
wainuitech (129)
1363160 2013-12-20 20:13:00 The Random, or shuffle function is on the player generally.

Guess the question is what are you actually playing the songs on, what format and from what. If its a computer then there's lots of choices, if its a stand alone stereo then you are very limited ?

One option we have here ( apart from the media Center) is to plug in a laptop to the stereos speakers, fire up WMP, load music tracks from the server, set playing and select shuffle. works a treat. :) BBQ's are interesting sometimes, one minute playing easy listening then the next can be almost anything from rock, metal, comedy you name it.

Its a car stereo and the files are on a USB key, the random function on stereo's particularly car ones (I have owned a lot of them and they are all the same) is crap it takes the first say 50 files and shuffles through them but is incapable of taking ALL files from a source. Which is why I need a way to randomize the files themselves so I can just hit play and never know what I will get as it plays track 1 through whatever.

The obvious way would be to put a number (randomly) in front of each track so they would appear on the file list as mixed up, not sure how to do that other than manually which would take a LONG time.
DeSade (984)
1363161 2013-12-20 20:48:00 if you do it the way you want then they will be randomised but it will always be the same order. Also how are you playing 2000 tracks of music if not through an mp3 plaer of some kind, which should have a decent randomise function. Slankydudl (16687)
1363162 2013-12-21 00:03:00 I have never seen a "decent" randomise function and I have owned dozens of head-units.
Out of the 2k tracks I have, I have heard several over 30 or 40 times each and some never.
It is not randomising properly, the same 50 or so tracks are being repeated in a mini-randomization but the bulk of the tracks are not getting played.

Yes it is a MP3 player in the car and its not a cheap one either.

Yes they will be in the same order but by the time I have cycled through each track that order won't matter really it will still be sufficiently random.
DeSade (984)
1363163 2013-12-21 00:30:00 My head unit randomises off a USB stick just fine.\
Anyway does it support playlists? if so you could create a randomised playlist rather than randomising the actual files. You could even create a few different ones to really make it random and name them so they are always the first things played.
I used to use Winamp to do that but it's been years so not sure what would work these days, it has options to randomise the current playlist and save it.
dugimodo (138)
1363164 2013-12-21 00:31:00 This Should work, but you would possibly need another MP3 Player ---- ( BACKGROUND) SWMBO "insisted" she plays her music on the trips away. She has several hundred on her iPod Nano which uses the inbuilt shuffle ( day to day use with head phones), BUT cant plug into the car stereo.

We went to Supercheap Auto this Morning and got Aerpro-FM-Transmitter-4-Channel Transmitter (www.supercheapauto.co.nz) ( looks very slighty different to that model, but basically the same thing) Plugged it into the Ciggy lighter, tuned in the radio and bingo- :punk

Even my cheap MP3 player has shuffle options works fine. Its Similar to This one at Ascent (www.ascent.co.nz) But not as high capicity

We did look in DSE, and was very proud of her this morning, :wub they wanted $79 for something similar, in a voice so they could hear, she said Not paying that much - This place is a bloody rip off (Polite version) One she had seen was mp3-traveller-fm-transmitter-and-mp3-player (www.noelleeming.co.nz) But they were sold out.
wainuitech (129)
1363165 2013-12-21 01:16:00 I have an FM transmitter also but never really liked it, seems to lower the quality noticeably. Does the trick though, from experimenting it even has enough range to work a few car lengths away. dugimodo (138)
1363166 2013-12-21 09:28:00 The obvious way would be to put a number (randomly) in front of each track so they would appear on the file list as mixed up, not sure how to do that other than manually which would take a LONG time.

Depends how it reads them.

I have an old MP3 player which reads SD cards.. ultra budget device, doesn't even have shuffle... reads files off the card in the order they were written to it. Doesn't give a damn about filename or date or anything else.

Want to change play order? Delete the files from the card and then re-copy them in a different order. Hope your headunit doesn't have the same scheme for determining those first 50 files.
Agent_24 (57)
1363167 2013-12-21 23:56:00 Depends how it reads them.

I have an old MP3 player which reads SD cards.. ultra budget device, doesn't even have shuffle... reads files off the card in the order they were written to it. Doesn't give a damn about filename or date or anything else.

Want to change play order? Delete the files from the card and then re-copy them in a different order. Hope your headunit doesn't have the same scheme for determining those first 50 files.

If this works it will only work once.
See the system has not taken the first 50 tracks.
It has taken 50ish random tracks when I first plugged it in and then simply randomized those 50 over and over again.
Its like it doesn't even see the other 1950 tracks.

Deleting the content and reloading it to the USB key may reset this process but there is no real way to know if it will solve the issue.
I still see the best way to deal with this is to randomize the files manually and not use that function.
DeSade (984)
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