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| Thread ID: 45685 | 2004-05-30 23:28:00 | Dell Hardcopy SPAM | Woof (2402) | Press F1 |
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| 240523 | 2004-06-01 21:58:00 | > The addressed ones are in plastic bags which you > shouldn't be burning. S'alright Paul, the ozone layer is in reasonably safe hands. :D We don't burn plastic and only use recycled pallets for firewood. I'm not sure that we should have fires at all actually, but it is the only economic means to heat the house. Hasn't been cold enough to light a fire yet anyway. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 240524 | 2004-06-01 22:47:00 | Having read this thread, I'm not quite sure what the problem is. Your point is fair Woof if you do not want junk mail from specific mailers. You are being ignored which is insulting but not suprising. However junk mail is a feature of a free society. If you have a physical letterbox , then you invite mail. What you do with it upon receipt is your choice. If the objection is the waste of resources producing material which will go directly to waste (or Billy's fire), that is also fair. But there is no easy answer. Direct mail is highly successful on a cost-benefit ratio. As compared with normal media advertising - and you cannot avoid that. If society decided that this was too intrusive then the mailers would get the message through falling sales and community outrage. It hasn't happened. Indeed many people enjoy it. I have to beat my wife to the Placemakers stuff before she goes directly to the recycling bin. By contrast this is happening with e-mail. Legislatures around the world are looking at laws against spam. Guys and gals, if you really want to be outraged, consider the kids in this wealthy country of ours who still get maimed and murdered by those who are supposed to care for them. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 240525 | 2004-06-02 00:45:00 | "Having read this thread, I'm not quite sure what the problem is. " As far as I'm concerned the problem is that each personally addressed brochure in a plastic bag (which is almost the same as the insert in the paper) comes with instructions on how to stop future mail from Dell. You have a choice of emailing or leaving a recorded message on an 0800 number. Dell appear to ignore both types of message. |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 240526 | 2004-06-02 02:31:00 | Winston ! If you don't know what the problem is you must be a bit thick. The problem is a micky mouse American company is posting out misleading brochures for overpriced rubishy half - computers. I don't know why junk mail deliverers got involved in this. Dell are posting them out. They completely ignore polite requests to desist. I don't even know how they got my address. I don't know why they send me two copies every time. And god only knows where they got the idea I am an IT Manager. Why shoul an overseas company be allowed to get away with unwanted, misleading advertising. Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 240527 | 2004-06-02 03:11:00 | Ummmm......... Maybe you need to take a few deep breaths and settle down a bit Jack. It is not really misleading until you act upon the info contained, and then I doubt that it is truly misleading unless you are referring to the email and phone contacts that should stop it but don't. Even then, that is not misleading, it is just ineffective. Like everybody else here on PF1 I receive piles of unsolicited paper every week, from my PO Box, my letterbox and various newspapers. And we won't even talk about email spam & viruses.:| Life is too short to get all agitated and het up about it, I just do our environment a favour and recycle the paper dross that arrives here. Life can be real *****, but only if you let it get to you. I'm immune to life's witless and petty irritations, all of them. ]:) Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 240528 | 2004-06-02 03:43:00 | > My own advice to "kids" has always been that while > you're earning money you're NOT spending it = double > the value (and of course the exercise) > > But when I have actually seen and questioned an > oldish asian lady why she stared at the signage and > yet still deposited her junk mail into a letterbox > clearly signed than I really do have to wonder about > a 'system' that can allow junk mail to be delivered > by those unable (or unwilling) to understand the > local custom and LANGUAGE Thanks, good to get feedbacks. Hehe, no I'm not spending it, well, at least not till lately... my personal assets in four figures, won't say to what extent. Plenty for me to live on at this age. It is quite fair to comment on the exercise, I always think theres a need for me to get off this thing. I agree, many new immigrants aren't the best they should be. Believe me, they are usually new arrivals. Why? Well.... many, coming from China, don't have the best backgrounds. Accompanied with bad English they have difficulties finding a job. Hence, deliver junk, as a 'pocket money'. No English required *according to them*. Many are used to the low pay, and apparently some say it's even higher than what they used to get. Don't worry, most of them give up after a few times on the job ;-) I suggest you draw a picture of a letterbox and junkmail inside on your letterbox. Circle it and put a cross through it ;-) BTW, Nice one Billy T :D |
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| 240529 | 2004-06-02 04:06:00 | OK Billy, I've taken a few deep breaths. But they didn't do any good! Firstly, I'm not interested in how much junk mail you get. I probably get as much. It can be thrown away. If I'm in a bad mood, into the gutter! This discussion is about ADDRESSED mail. With my name and address on it. From a rip off computer company that I have never had dealings with and never will. A company that will not remove my name from their mailing list. Jack |
JJJJJ (528) | ||
| 240530 | 2004-06-02 04:12:00 | >From a rip off computer company that I have never had dealings with and never will. While you've got every right to be angry at them not doing what they say they'll do with regards to taking you off their mail list, I must say I'm intrigued why you label them a "rip off" company, and call their computers "rubbishy" when you say you've neber had any dealings with them. Why so down on the product (as opposed to the company's poor response to your request to be removed from a mail list)? |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 240531 | 2004-06-02 04:26:00 | A "... Mickey Mouse American company ..." ... making "overpriced rubbishy computers". ? They must be doing something nearly right to be selling enough to be the biggest manufacturer of personal computers in the world. Their sales are close to NZ's GDP. ($US45 billion vs $US50 billion). |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 240532 | 2004-06-02 04:31:00 | How does sales mean they are doing something right? Look at the pc company,sold a boatload,Look at Macdolalds and other fast food,The fact they sell by the millions doesn't isn't a good indication on quality,more of an indication of peoples stupidity. Unless...maybe all that matters is money for american corperations? I would hope not. Anyhow,I personally don't have any great beef with Dell,The computers generally underperform for the specs,they use lower spec named components and other such rot,But you get what you pay for after all....Unless you buy a dell gaming machine....then you just get reamed. |
metla (154) | ||
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