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| Thread ID: 45768 | 2004-06-02 05:37:00 | slightly OT: the youth of today. Sigh... | falvrez (390) | Press F1 |
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| 241149 | 2004-06-02 23:38:00 | > Heh, I always bring up laughs at school when I say > bother, instead of something more graphical. I guess > it is a bit about like Windston said about fitting > in. Yet I manage to fit in Ok with my extreme words > like bother, and flop, even if I do get hastled for > it. Good man JoBloggs!! |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 241150 | 2004-06-02 23:49:00 | I believe its what Society deems acceptable. Personally, swearing hasnt ever been an issue. Ive wanted to scream and curse on the odd occasion, but to be honest it wont get you anywhere so why should I lower my standards. Admittedly not everybody sets their 'bar' at the same height as me, or perhaps mine is just set crooked, but none-the-less its a personal choice Ive simply made and my peers respect that. Years ago it was considered very extreme for a young teenage girl to be pregnant before marriage. Now, we see it happening all the time, because society deems it acceptable. Yet, society seems to be going in the wrong direction in many ways, and that's whats sad :-( Chill. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 241151 | 2004-06-02 23:54:00 | wrong direction compared to what? Does anyone actually read an history? Was it better 50 years ago? 100 years ago? 500 years ago? Hell no,You would be put to work in the salt mines at 5 and dead at 15,or used as cannon fodder in some petty fools real estate claim. Swearing wasn't an issue,dying of disease,starvation or war was. |
metla (154) | ||
| 241152 | 2004-06-03 00:05:00 | Well done Joe. Interesting, because I have deliberately modified my own language since having children. I now say bother and other mild expressions. You are dead right that kids learn from adults - the ultimate responsibility lies with the grownups. And Chill, you are right about what society tolerates. We live in a liberal age where it seems that if it feels good, you should be allowed to do it. Fine, except pedophiles, drug dealers, and drunks like what they do too. So it must be alright? Values will change. Eventually we will see a return to individual respect for others but I can't identify the catalyst. Otherwise society will break down with nobody obeying laws and just doing their own thing. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 241153 | 2004-06-03 00:15:00 | >Fine, except pedophiles, drug dealers, and drunks like what they do too. So it must be alright? Alcohol, child molestation and drugs(to a smaller extent but they have had many era's of popularity over the centuries) have always been present within the human race, the difference was back in this "golden age" i presume you refer to people simply didn't get prosecuted for pedophilia. |
metla (154) | ||
| 241154 | 2004-06-03 01:34:00 | There was no golden age. Along with courtesy and respect in past centuries, society also accepted paternalism, massive class distinctions, and the repression of women. Actually it doesn't sound all bad. :D Alcohol and child abuse are not new, but common drug use is. The difference today is that we are all able to be far better educated and informed. We now know about harm and how to stop it. Back to the topic. Falverz: I do not put up with bad language in the sort of situations you describe. If a person speaks to me in such a way on the phone or in my office, I consider that deeply disrespectful and end the conversation. Not always possible I know. I can only suggest a calm and quiet word of your views to the students. Some will think it weird, others will be embarrassed cos they simply go along with their mates. If you can show standards of behavior, that influences others. nzStan: we all understand how you felt. Challenging the lads would have generated more abusive language. I have finally learned that speaking quietly and with humour, is the best way to be listened to. Criticism or challenge simply raise defenses and nobody listens. But ultimately it all comes back to adult examples and behaviour. Cheers. Got to do some work! |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 241155 | 2004-06-03 02:04:00 | > There was no golden age. Of course there was,Inbetween 1972 and 1988,The Heavy Metal Era,Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Judas preist,AC/DC,Scorpions,Megadeth,Slayer,Riot,Metal Church...and many many others released released not only their best albums but the best albums to ever be recorded in the history of music. Pure bliss. |
metla (154) | ||
| 241156 | 2004-06-03 02:22:00 | Abba, Barry Manilow, Osmond, Jackson 5, John Denver - bygone era. | nzStan (440) | ||
| 241157 | 2004-06-03 02:46:00 | Take it from an oldie........... Current problems are that teachers are not allowed to instill discipline in their classes, and many parents won't because they are as bad as the multitude of children they produce. When I was in early schooling well over 60 years ago there was no problem, but the standards of society have slipped alarmingly since. Just consider the very poor films, so called "music", drug culrure, and bad parenting around now and realise why children today are so obnoxious. |
rodb (1561) | ||
| 241158 | 2004-06-03 02:53:00 | Oh Metla, that Golden Age. I'm with you there. Don't forget Cream, Blind Faith, Jimmi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, et al. Heep even had a bass guatarist from Christchurch - Gary Thaine, who sadly died of a heroin overdose. But Stan - Barry Manilow??? :_| I feel ill................... |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
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