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Thread ID: 45768	2004-06-02 05:37:00	slightly OT: the youth of today. Sigh...	falvrez (390)	Press F1

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241139	2004-06-02 09:14:00	> It does not look like the school your learning from > is the top in the school . Complain to the > principle/person incharge if you think you are being > offended . > Sorry people, my grammar is shocking today, after all those "brain-burns" . It does not seem like the school you are learning from is the top in the country, it should read . Not the only mistake, I'm sure . Sorry about that .	techie_fanatic (5619)
241140	2004-06-02 09:36:00	Sorry to say it, but there's nothing you can do about it. Teens will be teens. Teens will swear. But you know where we get it from? Adults Mainly T.V programs and movies, but either way we get it from adults. Sute, we are partly to blame, but take any program after 11:00 and it will have the "f" word in it. No points for guesses as to why there are teen pregnancies and smoking as well. Just my opinion, if you don't like it, I don't really care. MM	Megaman (344)
241141	2004-06-02 10:45:00	> Sorry to say it, but there's nothing you can do about > it. > > Teens will be teens. Teens will swear. But you know > where we get it from? > > Adults > > Mainly T.V programs and movies, but either way we get > it from adults. Sute, we are partly to blame, but > take any program after 11:00 and it will have the "f" > word in it. > > No points for guesses as to why there are teen > pregnancies and smoking as well. > > Just my opinion, if you don't like it, I don't really > care. > > MM Good one, completely agree with both Megaman and techie. If there weren't such adults, there wouldn't be such teens. Not all adults are as good as you might be. Not all adults are a good role model.	~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
241142	2004-06-02 11:12:00	There are many good kids out there but unfortunately it is always the plonkers who get noticed . Having said that I work with a group of kids -15/16 yrs old- trying to teach them work skills . These skills are actually the basics such as being on time,looking for something to do without being told to,completing a job,not moaning,don't sit down/stop until the job is completed . Now to a lot old types like me(50+) these are the basics we learnt as kids from our Fathers and teachers,most of whom were Returened Serviceman . Life wasn't perfect but we learnt values that have held us in good stead . It seems that attitudes like I have expressed above are foreign/filthy words . These kids have no attitudes worthwhile listening to, nor do they want to listen . And before the apologists and woofters who want to be Helen Clark start whinging, of course generalisations are bad and there are always exceptions . But we got on with life and worked . Nowadays no one wants to be responsible for their actions: the PC woofters have seen to that whereby any stupid/unthinking action can be blamed on someone/something else . Until we get rid of this pathetic attitude we will continue to have social irresponsibility .	kaiw (5729)
241143	2004-06-02 11:50:00	I think it all comes down to what kind of a job you have. Social workers would be dealing with kids coming from a not-so-flash family background. Hence, badly educated and more likely to swear. However, what they don't see are the good kids (beside their own) than are eagered to learn. In this case, teens are been stereotyped, which in fact, plays a huge role is destroying social interactions today.	~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
241144	2004-06-02 11:52:00	Keep up the good work Kaiw. Would it be that most of these kids reflect the way their parents/guardians live ? I once had occasion to meet up with a slightly older but similar bunch and their mentor. It was clear that turning up for work regularly, or actually trying to do something, was a strange thing. They were 19/20, and with no real idea of doing anything. The mentor doubted that he could do much to change them - they moved in an environment of similar people, but at least he tried. Worriesome, isn't it. Cheers Tony	TonyF (246)
241145	2004-06-02 11:55:00	Society has always been a mess, Teenagers have always been a problem, the criminal society has always existed, hell they run the show half the time. The problem with this country is that we have no barbarians at the gate, we have it so sweet its unbelievable. Not directed at you SY, your post was just at the end of the queue.	metla (154)
241146	2004-06-02 12:05:00	No more comment, I can only say c.f. Megaman's response. I shall be the same. I wonder who started the whole 'youth behaviour' B-) Weren't you all youths [or youth-at-heart] once upon a time...? Or even now... in metla's case. Wish my dad played computer games :8}	~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054)
241147	2004-06-02 23:02:00	Interesting thread . There is nothing new about swearing . What has changed is the level of respect for others in society . At one time, bad language was reserved for certain environments . You didn't use it in public, or polite company - (such as your family, teacher etc) basically not in front of anyone you respected . Swearing was used among friends and colleagues if generally accepted . It was also used, as today, as an appropriate expletive to express frustration, anger, rage, shock, pain etc . That is what swear words exist for . I recall our speech was peppered with all the usual strong words at school in the early 70s - but never in front of an adult . The same happened at the freezing works later, and amongst the guys at university . But not in front of our girlfriends or strangers . Using strong language was and is, a sort of bonding ritual . A way of fitting in, being tough, bold, etc . Personally I find commonplace swearing in public, which now happens, offensive . These words are powerful and violent, because that is what they exist for . Unfortunately if we have no respect for other people, we will not care that they are offended and even threatened by bad language . And that is the place we find ourselves today . Modern TV doesn't help although it no longer shocks . Not suprising that youth think it is perfectly ok . But they have parents and teachers to tell them otherwise - except it doesn't happen . Either new words will be invented (oddly, hasn't happened yet) or there will be a return to more modest values as has happened in earlier centuries . We live in interesting times . Winston001	Winston001 (3612)
241148	2004-06-02 23:26:00	About getting swearing from adults: I tutor some little primary school kids, and they get told off if they swear, but then I am sitting there, and their Mum makes a mistake with something, and I can hear her swearing in the background. It seems pointless to me to tell the children off for swearing, when they hear it from her in the first place. Heh, I always bring up laughs at school when I say bother, instead of something more graphical. I guess it is a bit about like Windston said about fitting in. Yet I manage to fit in Ok with my extreme words like bother, and flop, even if I do get hastled for it.	mejobloggs (264)
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