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241588 2004-06-06 09:24:00 okay, now this bit can be confusing.

NX meant No Execute, is for 64-bit system ONLY. It had nothing to do with the Trust-Computer stuff rather it a next step for MS to provide protection against buffer overrun and protect memory protection. This is the short version, for the long version go to the following web site.

For MS doc go here: "www.microsoft.com

This is the bit that MS is hammer towards working properly, for now though, only worry about it if you are planning to buy at 64-bit system.

Phew..
robert_m_r_w (3943)
241589 2004-06-06 09:27:00 Also, for a 'insider view' of SP2. This blog "blogs.tonygoodhew.com by a program manger at MS gives a good view about SP2. robert_m_r_w (3943)
241590 2004-06-06 09:54:00 > NX meant No Execute, is for 64-bit system ONLY. It
> had nothing to do with the Trust-Computer stuff
> rather it a next step for MS to provide protection
> against buffer overrun and protect memory protection.
> This is the short version, for the long version go to
> the following web site.
That was as I understood it - No Execute.. I actually thought it was "non executable" but anyway....

And no, I never said the Virus Protection was from Microsoft, this wont come in to place until Longhorn. This only monitors AVG (And Im asking what other programs it does) to see if its up to date and functioning fully etc.


Chill.
Chilling_Silence (9)
241591 2004-06-06 10:18:00 > NX meant No Execute, is for 64-bit system ONLY .

Yes, I'm well aware of that . Only means only at the moment . It doesn't mean it can't be implemented on any chip on your system or in a peripheral at any time in the future .

> It had nothing to do with the Trust-Computer stuff rather it a next step for MS to provide protection
> against buffer overrun and protect memory protection .

I'm aware of that as well . What I was trying to get across is that, the technology is used to control executables on a system, it doesn't necessarily stop at buffer overflows or malicious code of some sort . It can (and will IMO) be used for any executable or code on a system that whoever controls the NX implementation deems fit . And that ain't necessarily you or me .

> This is the bit that MS is hammer towards working properly, for now though, only worry about it if you
> are planning to buy at 64-bit system .

If I wish to carry on using computers or their off-shoots, when am I not going to be using a 64 bit system in the relatively near future . Unless of course I'm happy to carry on using obsolete hardware but, I have the felling that that will be a no goer if I want to be connected, play a DVD, download my new camera's images or whatever . The pint I was making is that this technology will not be limited to its currently expressed purpose . I strongly believe it is naive or disingenuous to say otherwise .

Anyone for proprietary hardware like the good old days . I can envision it getting to the point where - You run this software on that system and that system only and visa versa .

> Phew

Exactly, Phew . ;)

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
241592 2004-06-07 01:50:00 . . . At the moment, only a hand full of AV are detected but the big two (Norton and Mcafee) are still lacking because it want to wait until RTW . It is up to the AV companies to provide the detection for SC, I might add .

MS had not yet had a full list of who's AV will be monitor through SC .

Hope it helps
robert_m_r_w (3943)
241593 2004-06-07 01:51:00 AVG, CA's AV and Pandor ones works well with SC robert_m_r_w (3943)
241594 2004-06-07 04:43:00 Just a quick question guys . . . . .

Is RC1 safe enough to put on my machine or is there no real benefit to doing that?

cheers
chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
241595 2004-06-07 04:47:00 Unless you want to test and take the consequences of testing I'd leave it off especially if you have data and setting you really want to keep.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
241596 2004-06-07 06:51:00 Built in Popup stopper (I use Firefox which has had it for years) in IE, Disabling of Messenger Service, Enabling Firewall by default....

Why not? It patches your system so you're safe from all current leaks.

Ive experienced no slowdown, in fact the opposite once the first reboot is done!

I'd say go for it :-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
241597 2004-06-07 06:57:00 Chilling_Silence, What build of SP2 are you using now?

Also, bear in mind that the public RC build is not as "solid" as in the final version and there will be chnages during the course. As always with any beta software, backup your date first.
robert_m_r_w (3943)
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