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| 241578 | 2004-06-05 10:36:00 | Windows XP Service Pack 2 RC-1 is available publicly from microsoft.com, it is not required to visit dubious sites. usually when i look for it i go to www.google.com and Type Windows XP Service Pack 2 and the few times i have done it the version of microsoft has been the first match Note RC= Release Candidiate [1] I found i too unstable for me as it would crash Outlook XP often, but perhaps others may have different experience |
Captive (3159) | ||
| 241579 | 2004-06-05 12:23:00 | I hear that when you use SP2 and you have one of the new 64bit AMD processors it triggers something. Link 1 (www.cdfreaks.com), Link 2 (www.p2pnet.net), Link 3 (www.theregister.co.uk) |
kiki (762) | ||
| 241580 | 2004-06-05 20:59:00 | I have found nothing but increased security, and my TV-Tuner card works a lot better since its been installed! Ive not read much about the NX Register in AMD-64, or some of the 32-Bit CPU's, but its my understanding that it is more used to prevent the likes of Buffer Overflow errors/exploits rather than DRM. I read an article somewhere saying that one of the more recent 2.6 Linux kernels have support for it, so MS arent the only one who're looking into this new register. And that register article? Maybe its too early for my brain to be fully functional but they started off saying that Pirated copies cant install WinXP SP2, and then at the end said that MS dont really care if pirates do or not? I know that the Devilsdown key has been blocked since WinXP SP1, but that's not the only VLK out there ;-) Does anybody know more specifically what the NX register is all about, especially in relation to DRM and Buffer Overflow exploits? Cheers Chill. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 241581 | 2004-06-06 02:56:00 | I think the jury is still out on the NX thing Chill . Opinions abound that it is linked to DRM & NGSCB with others saying it is simply a good idea to stop unauthorised code from running on your machine and has nothing to do with the former . On the face of it, it is a great idea and I think some are genuinely concerned with the system security aspects it can provide . The big but that I see, is that it is very open to abuse . Can you really believe that MS, IBM, SCO, Symantic, McAfee, Intel, AMD, Sony, Westwood, EA, etc, telco's, the RIA, some governments or govenrment agencies and/or any combination of the afore mentioned are going to sit around on the sidelines while you the users decide what code/executables run on their machines? If you do believe that I hope your dreams remain forever pleasant and non-threatening . It's just too convenient, too powerfull, too big a money spinner for it not to be used in a variety ways that will de-power, invade and suck more money from the average consumers pocket . If on the other hand, it was to be standardised and administered by non-profit, educational/research organisations I would have a lot more faith in it . Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 241582 | 2004-06-06 08:14:00 | For those who want to download SP2, forget it . The only official build for the public, as someone said earlier, is RC1 from MS . For the RC2 build (which is not quite there yet, as the cycle is still in-between the RC stage) is buggy as hell at the moment . Also, the "supported Virus protection" title is misleading, SP2 DOES NOT actually provide the actual protection against virus (like Norton's software does) but it does provide the necessary UI that MONITOR third-party AV to see if they are they on and updated . At the moment, only a hand full of AV are detected but the big two (Norton and Mcafee) are still lacking because it want to wait until RTW . It is up to the AV companies to provide the detection for SC, I might add . Also, DRM is not build into SP2 itself . It's an add-on provide by MS through their site . Hope this clear up for everybody . Tony S |
robert_m_r_w (3943) | ||
| 241583 | 2004-06-06 08:20:00 | NX Protection, in short, is for newer processor only. A sandbox mode is provided at the 32-bit stages. End-users don't have to worry about it for now. Anybody have any more questions, they can freely contact me. It seems people are getting their SP2 information through third-party sites. I can only answer general questions but will delete/ignore questions about where could I download buildxxx. Being able to test beta software is not fun but gaining some experiences later. Thanks |
robert_m_r_w (3943) | ||
| 241584 | 2004-06-06 08:35:00 | not meaning to offend you but . . . what makes info from you any better than a "third-party sites"? who are you to give info about waht MS are doing with XP-sp2 ?? are you the PR man for MS ?? dont take this a flaming you or any atack on you its just that if you give info out it would be cool to know why its any better info then i can read on the "third-party sites" |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 241585 | 2004-06-06 08:48:00 | This page "Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2" here at " . microsoft . com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2chngs . mspx . "" target="_blank">www . microsoft . com highlight changes in SP2 . I just wrote those comment in laymen terms, avoiding writing jagon, to help you guys to see whats coming up for SP2 and how it affect you . By third-party sites I meant sites that offer leak copies of SP2, while you could download them, it would be much better if you hold on until the final since beta software cause problems . Sorry for that comment And, no, I not working for Ms but just a beta tester . . . |
robert_m_r_w (3943) | ||
| 241586 | 2004-06-06 08:53:00 | For a forum that talks about SP2, go here "www.neowin.net - contained "official and unofficial information about SP2's content, release, download availability and general rumors." Tony |
robert_m_r_w (3943) | ||
| 241587 | 2004-06-06 09:09:00 | > NX Protection, in short, is for newer processor only . A sandbox mode is provided at the 32-bit stages . > End-users don't have to worry about it for now . Oh! Ok then that a relief . So, that means that no one will be discussing standards and implementation untill the hardware and software come together in our homes or offices . What do we do then if we don't like it, suck another lemon? Could you be a little more explicit with regard to your reasoning . Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
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