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| Thread ID: 45799 | 2004-06-03 06:42:00 | Disk Nuker and a Linux Distro | Growly (6) | Press F1 |
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| 241373 | 2004-06-03 10:27:00 | Gee guys, thanks for your replies! Well let's see . . . No, people on mailing lists, LUGs, or popular forums have never replied to me . (It's been a few months) . I have downloaded quite a few distros in my spare time (6 so far), and although I haven't tried em out, they are all either debian or the other one . . . . (i have no idea what they call it) . In the beginning, I had knoppix, which sucked at everything . I installed it to the HDD (from the LIVE CD), and I couldn't get anything to work as it was meant to . I tried then went to Fedora, but it was far too much like windows, which left me disappointed, as the machine is the better part of one metre from my windows machine, which I run everything on (and has the best hardware) . While trying to befriend the IT Tech at school, (and to cut a long story short), he got a purely CLI version of Debian, with no GUI, and slapped it on what he hoped would be a webserver . He, ofcourse, despite pretending otherwise, knew all sorts of commands . That seemed OK, but it also ran kernal 2 . 2, and which I though was old . . . so here I am . . . You see I'm used to using the Run command in windows, and it frustrates me to not know which commands do what and how to use them most efficiently in linux . ANYWAY . . . In my experience, debian was quite technical and command-line-y, which is a good thing, but I have nothing against Fedora, it's just that it's way too easy to do the basic things . . . and I found doing picky things like running complicated servers all too difficult You know what, it was more that it was actually too easy . In the end, what stopped me was a)I couldnt figure out how to use bin files in Fedora, and b)i didnt know any commands :S . Thanks for the link to the fedora documentation though! I've heard that FreeBSD is very powerful . . . . THE OTHER THING I FIND RIDICULOUSLY HARD is trying to find programs to run to do certain jobs . Now, granted that I had knoppix which I am adament had something completely wrong with it, whenever i wanted to find and download a program to do something, it was rather hard to procure one . . . . AND ONE MORE THING I HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT: What folders does Linux use for what? I find it difficult to find things, configurations, etc, because I don't know where to look! On windows it's all 'Programs in Program files', and 'Stuff that cool to fiddle with in \Windows' . So far I know that home is the user files, and that root is the root files, but where the #!$% does it store the rest? etc? bin? Cheers for everything anyway! PS . . . Yeah i live in welly murray, you cold at the mo? My hands are freezing . . . |
Growly (6) | ||
| 241374 | 2004-06-03 10:28:00 | Coincidentally, that DBAN is the one that the IT Tech used.... | Growly (6) | ||
| 241375 | 2004-06-03 10:44:00 | Look in /user for most app's. That's where they are on mine anyway (I'm new at this). I'm going to put together a cheat sheet for commands. I've hardly touched the CLI since loading my current (and only) successfull distro. I want to learn some of the guts of the thing as well. Softly softly tho for me, too much info and I'll need a cold boot. Cold Growly? Nah! I'm in my little office with the heater behind me and the computer and about 6 power packs close to hand, with brick walls to the inside and 380mm thick concrete on the (sunny) outside once it heats up it stays that way for a good while. In fact, in the name of good health and wastage I have the window open at the mo (time to turn the thermostat down). Do you want to have a look at that distro? I'm happy to burn a copy for you. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 241376 | 2004-06-03 10:52:00 | Mmmm cheat sheet . . . ME LIKE! What distro do you use? I figured Debian, but which exactly? Thanks for the offer, we'll keep in touch (email?) I'll have to wait untill i can nuke the <expletive> out of my hard drive before trying again :D Man, you got it all nice and cosy . . . . My back hurts, my eyes hurt, my hair's wet, my left hand is cold, and the rest is pretty stiff . . . . Hehehehehe . . . . |
Growly (6) | ||
| 241377 | 2004-06-03 11:03:00 | >AND ONE MORE THING I HAVE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT: >What folders does Linux use for what? I find it difficult to find things, configurations, etc, because I don't know where to look! On windows it's all 'Programs in Program files', and 'Stuff that cool to fiddle with in \Windows' . >So far I know that home is the user files, and that root is the root files, but where the #!$% does it store the rest? etc? bin? Two words: man hierEnter that in a shell/console/terminal window .. :) |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 241378 | 2004-06-03 11:20:00 | Nice one Jen . Hey Jen, IIRC you use(d) a cheet sheet for linux commands or am I confusing you up with someone else, maybe the other pretty one? You see, if you know sod all, it's a little hard to select what you need in order to learn if you get my drift Growly drop me a line mm8***paradise . Cheers Murray P Oh yes definitely, I'm a greaser when I need to be . it's easier when it's sincere tho, hurrumph ;) |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 241379 | 2004-06-03 11:50:00 | > Nice one Jen. Hey Jen, IIRC you use(d) a cheet sheet > for linux commands or am I confusing you up with > someone else, maybe the other pretty one? The only "cheat sheet" that I have posted on here was this one Newbie's Top Ten Commands (www.cmm.uklinux.net) - Covers the basics and is funny to /boot [that always helps when learning CLI] :p I do have however, have a extensive bookmark section in Firefox devoted to all sorts of Linux references which I add to whenever I find a good site or if the subject matter is something I am trying out. I have my own home-grown how-to sheets as well - currently covers 6 A4 sides of paper which I add hints or good commands to find out a variety of information or to perform tasks. Never remember them otherwise :D [will eventually put them into a searchable electronic form - something like the Windows AZZ Cardfiles would be great!] > You see, if you know sod all, it's a little hard to select what you need in order to learn if you get my drift Just pick a task, and then learn how to do it. Hands-on is the best way. For example, compiling your own kernel from source. I just got around to taking a look at Apache and now have <whispers > a web-server</whispers > running on my machine from which I host my own website. > Oh yes definitely, I'm a greaser when I need to be. > it's easier when it's sincere tho, hurrumph ;) You are a sweet greaser though :p |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 241380 | 2004-06-03 13:22:00 | Jen> Google for Adios Linux ;-) Im still for thinking Gentoo would be a good starting point. Installation is relatively easy if you can follow documentation (Read twice, compile once as a rule of thumb). It'd take a while on a slow PC/Internet Connection though.... No dependancy hell to worry about though :D Here's a quick run-down of the Linux File-system: /bin = commands like mount go in here /boot = Boot Files like your kernel - Fedora and Gentoo put this on its own partition /dev = All devices in your PC get an entry in the file-system, such as /dev/dsp for your soundcard and /dev/psaux for a PS2 mouse /etc = Config files - All System-wide configs go here /home = The "C:\Documents and Settings" folder of Linux /lib = some essential system library's go here /usr = Most apps and libs get installed in /usr/bin or /usr/share or /usr/lib etc /opt = Dunno, I think this is a bit like /usr.. Ive found KDE, OOo and Blackdown JDK in here before?? I think that's a quick run-down....... Chill. |
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