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241363 2004-06-03 06:42:00 I'm bored. I have a computer sitting beside me thats pretty decent, but whenever I install linux, I often don't need it for anything other than being a server. Also, when things go wrong, no one can help.

So, does can anyone recommend a good linux distro to learn complicated Linux-geeky commands with? I don't want something too close to windows, but alot of documentation would be nice.

ALSO... I need a disk nuker... (one that changes every bit to 1 or 0), any recommendations?
Growly (6)
241364 2004-06-03 06:50:00 >>So, does can anyone recommend a good linux distro to learn complicated Linux-geeky commands with?
At the command line level (to enter the complicated geeky commands), all distro's are pretty much created equal cos normally its bash. Debian is supposed to be the most geeky of the Linux Distro's so I think you should go with that. I was in Sydney last week and the latest APC mag over there had a dvd with the full debian 3 release 2 (or something on it) (I presume it will arrive over there very soon).
Dolby Digital (160)
241365 2004-06-03 06:53:00 > Also, when things go wrong, no one can help.

Can't the Linux users on PF1 or the NZLUG mailing list help out?

> So, does can anyone recommend a good linux distro to
> learn complicated Linux-geeky commands with? I don't
> want something too close to windows, but alot of
> documentation would be nice.

Fedora. Heaps of documentation available for Red Hat 9 which works fine with Fedora. [note: Fedora Core 2 now uses the command system-config-xxxx instead of redhat-config-xxxx]. Being such a well known distro's, there is a lot of information out on the www which can help. Fedora specific documentation is coming available as well.

Red Hat 9 extensive documentation (www.redhat.com).

FedoraNEWS (http://fedoranews.org/) - check out some of the articles.

Everyone has their favourite distro, so it really depends upon what sort of base system you prefer eg rpm based. Each is also capable of being as CLI geeky as you like, except for the couple of really Windows-like distro's which are more geared towards the newbie home desktop user.
Jen C (20)
241366 2004-06-03 07:01:00 Try Gentoo - the Whole OS from Source code :-)

Then when you've booted the install CD, run:
cat /dev/urandom > /dev/hda

That'll fill the whole HDD with Random bytes
From there you can use cfdisk or whatever to partition it :-)


Chill.
Chilling_Silence (9)
241367 2004-06-03 07:49:00 Growly, don't go with those horrible Red Hat based distro's your just asking for trouble. Debian is the way to go of course and all reasoning people know this.

Your not a million miles from where I am, I believe (in body anyway), would you like me to provide you with a nice friendly little Debian distro to try out without having to install on your HDD immediately? Silly question, of course you would you being a person of reason and some intellect ;)

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
241368 2004-06-03 08:05:00 > Growly, don't go with those horrible Red Hat based
> distro's your just asking for trouble.

:O

What do you find wrong with rpm based distro's? If you are meaning rpm hell, that is getting less common with the lovely CLI yum and apt-get which hunt out your app and install it all with the required dependencies ... (well, most of the time :p) Besides, think of the challenge when you get to go hunting over the net for some obscure required lib and the satisfaction of beating the rpm hell when you do! :D

blocks her beloved Fedora's speakers so as not to hear being called horrid ...

Growly - as you can see, each person has their own recommendations. Using a Live-CD is a good way of finding if you prefer that style of distro. Although it will not be as "full" as a HDD installation OS.

I do have a Live-CD for Fedora which I downloaded a while ago ... unfortunately it is Chinese-Taiwanese .... [note to oneself to check these things out first before downloading an entire CD ..]
Jen C (20)
241369 2004-06-03 08:42:00 > with the lovely CLI yum and apt-get which hunt out
> your app and install it all with the required
> dependencies . . . (well, most of the time :p)

An inherently flawed system will remain so no matter how you paper over the cracks . Look at windows dll "issues" for a small taste .

> Growly - as you can see, each person has their own
> recommendations .

But Jen, you must know in your heart that some are more sensible than others ;\ . Seriously though, getting something that works for you and your particular system is the correct choice nothing else to it . I tried four distro's before I found the one that worked for me and my home built . I'm about to give Ark a run to check it out . eh! . . . what was that Jen? I swear I can smell burning sulpher :D

> Using a Live-CD is a good way of finding
> if you prefer that style of distro . Although
> it will not be as "full" as a HDD installation OS .

Just use the other disk(s) when installing to the HDD and update/install the rest via Synaptic, or whatever you choose to use .

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
241370 2004-06-03 08:48:00 >I'm about to give Ark a run to check it out.

/me wonders if she should mention Ark is rpm based .... :-P

Ark is lovely, I dual boot that with Xandros on a spare machine. See - I do try out other options :D
Jen C (20)
241371 2004-06-03 08:56:00 > > I'm about to give Ark a run to check it out.
>
> /me wonders if she should mention Ark is rpm based
> .... :-P
>
> Ark is lovely, I dual boot that with Xandros on a
> spare machine. See - I do try out other options :D

> > > eh!...what was that Jen? I swear I can smell burning sulpher :D

Yeh, I thought I would check out the others|ide downstairs. Spossed to be nicer in winter.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
241372 2004-06-03 09:00:00 As for that 0 thing, have a look here. (http://dban.sourceforge.net/) Pheonix (280)
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