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Thread ID: 45896 2004-06-06 10:58:00 What music downloading app's? Murray P (44) Press F1
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242372 2004-06-07 04:38:00 Lol, Mets .

Yes the greedy so & so's want to double and triple dip . Trying to put a new spin on public broadcast in NZ . They'll have little people counters in the TV's or set top boxes soon and charge per seat to watch the (M$) Sunday feature . You'll have to shoo the cat, dog, and in our case the gold fish out of the room, out of ear shot as well, otherwise you'll be wacked in the pocket for them too .

I wonder how much actually ends up in the artists pocket . AFAIK, most is skimmed off by the labels et al before a dribble might find its way to the originator of the material . Nothing altruistic in their motives at all despite some claims to the contrary .

Trouble is, all this charging for recycled/purloined IP doesn't do a whole heck for innovation .

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
242373 2004-06-07 04:52:00 Indeed, Its a crooked path. Most artists who have sold albums in the millions are able to hammer themselves out a contract (after the first is expired) where they can get up to 7 cents per album sold.

All artists are also billed for the their album's, record company signs you up, throws away all your music, appoints a team to make you a product that they think will fit in with the market and can sell, Then they use your face to churn out some soulless personality devoid piece of crap and start shipping albums to the stores in large numbers (because the charts are defined by units shipped not by units sold)...then if it bombs your handed a bill for 2 million dollars.

Even if it sells your unlikely to get a cent after expenses and due to the industry making you take on an image and sound with a 5-minute lifespan your career is effectively over anyway.

The sooner the downfall of the major record companies comes about the better, the market has changed, their time is over.
metla (154)
242374 2004-06-07 05:18:00 Check this for another nail in the record companies coffins:

www.theregister.co.uk

Rob.
zqwerty (97)
242375 2004-06-07 06:57:00 I gave up on Kazaa Lite some time again too. Too many corrupted music files. I switched to this completely free P2P program Shareaza (www.shareaza.com). I find it to be very good although not as fast to download as Kazaa unless what you're looking for is very popular. Haven't downloaded a corrupt file yet. It uses a much more stringent file checking/anti-corruption system than does Kazaa. Rod J (451)
242376 2004-06-07 07:12:00 I personally use ABC - Bittorrent Client, thou more used for movie downloads these days than music. Finding it hard to think of music to download lately..... :-) Breezzee (2913)
242377 2004-06-07 09:06:00 The Direct Connect network is the best P2P system hands down. There are a number of NZ hubs or servers and the RIAA or RIANZ or anyone can't target it because the clients are open source - so if one falls, another will take its place. And as for the hubs - anyone can open their own one and set their own rules. Hell - I did once... on a 56k!

I prefer the aforementioned PhantomDC but their are lots of others such as DC++, oDC, MS++V, the list goes on and on.

The best new zealand server atm would probably be silver server. It used to be hosted on a 100mbit connection in the skytower!

Check out http://www.adzest.net/ for a larger list of NZ hubs.

Also, look at www.zeropaid.com for alternative p2p software.
willie_M (5608)
242378 2004-06-12 22:38:00 I had problems non-stop with kazaa lite. It's great, but the the authentication and clarification of files... sucks . I was downloading 5 files into 1, and hoping to get some sort of distinguihable rhytm at the end of it. Growly (6)
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