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| Thread ID: 132783 | 2013-05-22 01:34:00 | From the Police Commissioner May 22 2013 | WalOne (4202) | PC World Chat |
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| 1342580 | 2013-05-22 01:34:00 | Lessons learned from Operation 8 By Peter Marshall, Police Commissioner The Independent Police Conduct Authority has released its report on Operation 8, the investigation into criminal activity in Te Urewera National Park and elsewhere . The report is critical of some police actions . We accept its findings and have already made significant changes to address many of the issues noted . However, the report confirms the investigation was a "reasonable and necessary" response to the serious criminal activity being undertaken . It also exposes myths that have become accepted as fact since the events of October 2007 . For example, armed police officers did not search a bus full of köhanga reo children, and officers did not set up a roadblock on the confiscation line . The report acknowledges the targets of the operation were not exclusively Tühoe or indeed Mäori . Those are welcome comments . The authority faults us over roadblocks at Ruatoki and Taneatua and the way officers interacted with members of the public they stopped . Likewise, our interactions with people at five of the 41 properties searched fell short of the required standard . We accept this, and that Police underestimated the affect of the operation on Ruatoki and Tühoe . I apologise for the impact on innocent residents of the Ruatoki Valley and elsewhere . Without making any excuses, it's important to remember the context . The IPCA says the threat was "real and potentially serious", and acknowledges the "huge logistical challenge" of the police response . We've made many changes to operational policies and practices since 2007, with the most significant following the passage of the Search and Surveillance Act 2012 . This clarified the law in this area and has diminished the likelihood of similar problems arising again . We'll take time to work through the Authority's recommendations in detail . I'll oversee their implementation and will do everything I can to ensure the right policies, procedures and training are in place . We look forward to continuing to work with members of the community in Ruatoki and elsewhere to build and strengthen the trust which underpins our mission to make New Zealand safer for all who live or visit here . You can read more about the Police response to the report HERE ( . police . govt . nz/news/release/35097 . html" target="_blank">www . police . govt . nz) . |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1342581 | 2013-05-22 02:18:00 | i find it offensive that tribal lands cannot be lived on as they have for thousands of years. www.youtube.com you can be arrested for felling a tree in Te Urewera National Park. this is perverted. |
Mirddes (10) | ||
| 1342582 | 2013-05-22 03:04:00 | Lessons learned from Operation 8 By Peter Marshall, Police Commissioner The Independent Police Conduct Authority has released its report on Operation 8, the investigation into criminal activity in Te Urewera National Park and elsewhere. The report is critical of some police actions. We accept its findings and have already made significant changes to address many of the issues noted. However, the report confirms the investigation was a "reasonable and necessary" response to the serious criminal activity being undertaken. It also exposes myths that have become accepted as fact since the events of October 2007. For example, armed police officers did not search a bus full of köhanga reo children, and officers did not set up a roadblock on the confiscation line. The report acknowledges the targets of the operation were not exclusively Tühoe or indeed Mäori. Those are welcome comments. The authority faults us over roadblocks at Ruatoki and Taneatua and the way officers interacted with members of the public they stopped. Likewise, our interactions with people at five of the 41 properties searched fell short of the required standard. We accept this, and that Police underestimated the affect of the operation on Ruatoki and Tühoe. I apologise for the impact on innocent residents of the Ruatoki Valley and elsewhere. Without making any excuses, it's important to remember the context. The IPCA says the threat was "real and potentially serious", and acknowledges the "huge logistical challenge" of the police response. We've made many changes to operational policies and practices since 2007, with the most significant following the passage of the Search and Surveillance Act 2012. This clarified the law in this area and has diminished the likelihood of similar problems arising again. We'll take time to work through the Authority's recommendations in detail. I'll oversee their implementation and will do everything I can to ensure the right policies, procedures and training are in place. We look forward to continuing to work with members of the community in Ruatoki and elsewhere to build and strengthen the trust which underpins our mission to make New Zealand safer for all who live or visit here. You can read more about the Police response to the report HERE (www.police.govt.nz). Shows what a pack of lying ****** ***** they are claiming the feld polizei stopped a bus full of school kids and a road block on the confiscation line. They couldn't lie straight in bed . |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1342583 | 2013-05-22 03:32:00 | Shows what a pack of lying ****** ***** they are claiming the feld polizei stopped a bus full of school kids and a road block on the confiscation line. They couldn't lie straight in bed . Helped along to no small extent by drama shock horror inaccuracies by more lying ****** ***** media reporters. :mad: |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1342584 | 2013-05-22 12:13:00 | And zero common sense, a sadly lacked attribute in many groups around the country as well. This is one of the problems with robot assemblies of human unthinkingly and blindly following orders from above. cf Pike River. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1342585 | 2013-05-22 21:18:00 | THIS (www.stuff.co.nz) will be interesting. Given the Goverment has refused to pay Bain, Haig, and others compensation for Police screw-ups, what's the odds of Key, Findlayson, Marshall & even Collins turning up with a sack full of money based purely on race. :groan: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1342586 | 2013-05-22 21:45:00 | I expect a select few on both sides will award themselves medals as a result of the inquiry . Especially those "thousands of years" residents who wish to cherry pick the modern world, and the chair polishers in Wellington who will be rapidly formulating protocols so they can remotely (in time and location) control people who actually see the particular situation . The majority of all hues will say "Same old . . . " |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 1342587 | 2013-05-24 00:07:00 | Cameron Slater raises some good points in his Whale Oil blog (emphasis mine): What has been the most hilarious reaction to the IPCA Operation 8 report? How about Tame Iti planning to seek compensation? Or another one of the guilty four seeking separate indigenous reservations? Parihaka’s Emily Bailey, her partner Urs Signer, Tame Iti and Te Rangikaiwhiria Kemara were found guilty of firearms charges in March last year following Operation Eight, the Urewera raids in 2007 . “If countries like Canada and the United States can cope with separate indigenous reservations and entire states with separate laws inside one country, then why can’t we?” she said . “Why do we have to hear ironic calls of apartheid and separatism? One rule for all doesn’t mean equality, it means authoritarianism and separatism between the rich and powerful and the poor . “I don’t believe that’s what New Zealanders want . True equality comes through diversity, respect, trust and justice . ” And who can forget the Greens saying the raids were down to racial discrimination? The party’s police spokesman, Dave Clendon, said it was not okay to “descend like masked ninjas” on a small community, adding that police thinking about the raids had not fundamentally changed . He believed racial discrimination played a part on the abuse of rights and illegal detention of innocent people . All happily repeated at length by journalists . And how about the most tragic aspects? Our media buried the fact that the IPCA said the raids were justified . Media also failed to show the Police footage of the military camps: And perhaps most tragic of all – the media don’t even ask those involved why they were in the bush with rifles, playing at being soldiers and throwing Molotov cocktails . Now the left wing are using this report to attack the government…do we have to remind them that these raid occurred in 2007 under the rule of Helen Clark, with Annette King as Police Minister . Why haven’t the media asked Annette King for comments about the raids? Why haven’t they asked Helen Clark? |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1342588 | 2013-05-24 00:59:00 | There should be an inquiry to why these people lied about things that did not happen, just made stuff up. It must be against the law to fabricate stuff like that. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1342589 | 2013-05-24 06:40:00 | Cameron Slater raises some good points in his Whale Oil blog (emphasis mine): Fact. Politicians would sell their souls to satan, assuming one would be available to them, in the name of air time... |
Sanco (683) | ||
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