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Thread ID: 46111	2004-06-14 01:18:00	News: Linux is getting Fat, and Windows XP has a quicker boot time	Chilling_Silence (9)	Press F1

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244232	2004-06-14 01:18:00	Now that Ive got your attention, I just thought I'd post this interesting article Ive come across during my internet travels: The Fast-Food Syndrome: The Linux Platform is getting Fat (www.osnews.com) Interesting read..... Anybody else have any thoughts on Linux bloatware? I didnt see Vector Linux mentioned however, but it is not really a n00b-oriented Distro admittedly?! Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
244233	2004-06-14 01:44:00	I agree with you Openoffice is far to slow (word 97 loads in 3 seconds, compared to about 20 for openoffice) I use Vector Linux on a 120 MHz computer with 80mb RAM just for fun. Runs IceWM, it feels about the same as KDE 3.2 with Openoffice running on a 550 MHz with 128MB RAM... I use IceWM on mandrake 10 instead ok KDE. IceWM generally loads in under 5 seconds.. hehe Forrest44	forrest44 (754)
244234	2004-06-14 01:51:00	Use software that matches the capabilites of your harddware,to complain about recent release software chugging on older hardware is a dead end,there is plenty of older software designed to run on such systems.	metla (154)
244235	2004-06-14 02:41:00	i can understand where the author is coming from however it would be a HUGE advantage if linux had a distro that was user friendly and ran well on older pc's. more buisnesses would switch to linux rather than pay more $$$ for new hardware and XP.	tweak'e (174)
244236	2004-06-14 03:11:00	Intersting read. However I think the guy has an agenda thats a lttle different to what he's letting on to or he's just hasn't done his research properly. He gives a mate a copy of Mandrake 10 which he later admits is blaoted and buggy but which had run win XP on "600 MHz 128MB RAM system, ran Windows XP happily" Some mate but, allowed him to make a point in the article. Yeah right! 128MB of ram might run XP home with everything turned off and sod all start ups but really 256-512MB is the standard for win 2k & XP. He then goes on to say that "And I couldn't tell him to grudgingly install Slackware, Debian or Gentoo" obviously a Red Hat based distro fanboy, he labours the point re the suitibility of other distro's for new users again. He obviously hasn't researched or ignores the many debian based distro's for example that are aimed at new Linux users and will run on a system similar to that which his mate had. IMO the use of the generic term Linux in the article is rather crude. He should be more specific although, I agree that the Linux community at large need to be cautious at whom and what they target their particular OS at. Cheers Murray P	Murray P (44)
244237	2004-06-14 03:21:00	What do you expect? People say it has to be "user-fiendly" . That means more code . People say it has to be Microsoft-compatible so Open Office has to have all the "features" of MS Office . That means more code . But those who want computers to do work can do so . The Linux-BIOS is being used in some of the Beowulf clusters . I've seen reports of 11 seconds boot time . :D	Graham L (2)
244238	2004-06-14 03:23:00	Actually, it says his OS of choice is Arch Linux, which is source-based IIRC. Personally I think that Linux Distro-makers should turn off as many services as possibly by default. The average joe wont need httpd, sendmail, sshd, ntpd, vsftpd etc. My view is if the user is experienced enough to configure the server then they should know how to start the server and set it to do so each time the OS boots. If not then why hinder all those who dont? The average joe would need things like: Hotplug possibly samba and nfsmount I think that Ark Linux ran a lot smoother on the Family's PC than Windows XP did with 192MB Ram. Perhaps Ark is simply faster than Fedora/Mandrake? Anyways, Id give a user Ark or Xandros OCE any day over Fedora or Mandrake! My two cents worth... Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
244239	2004-06-14 05:12:00	I have to admit, Linux is much slower compared to windows... Then again, the linux fonts give me headaches.	Growly (6)
244240	2004-06-14 05:27:00	I would really debate that to the death to be honest.... Sure it is if you leave some of the stupid services turned on like Redhat/Mandrake leave on by default, such as sendmail. What Distro are you using? And I find the KDE Fonts quite nice :-)	Chilling_Silence (9)
244241	2004-06-14 12:18:00	> i can understand where the author is coming from > however it would be a HUGE advantage if linux had a > distro that was user friendly and ran well on older > pc's. more buisnesses would switch to linux rather > than pay more $$$ for new hardware and XP. Doesn't seem to work like that. Even if they could run XP on them they would replace them every 3-4 years. I'm sure some finance department person could explain this behaviour.	BIFF (1)
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