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| Thread ID: 46143 | 2004-06-15 00:43:00 | Discussion: What Do Newbies (And you) Need to Make the Switch to Linux?? | Chilling_Silence (9) | Press F1 |
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| 244509 | 2004-06-15 05:18:00 | > Pick up some Linux distro like Mandrake (or Xandros > and Ark which I am trying to get a copy of) and give > them a try. I would love to, but because they need to come a long way still in ways of install them, I will not be touching Linux for a very long time yet… |
stu120404 (268) | ||
| 244510 | 2004-06-15 05:19:00 | > This is what Im talking about.... > Okay, support: > 47% of large Corporations wouldnt investiagate Linux > due to "Lack of Support" (Jen can keep me correct on > these figures provided by Novell) > > And because its too "geeky"? Not so in my case. I'm pro Linux but even I can see the formidable task ahead converting my troop of accountants with their Excel macros. Plus we have heaps of windows based applications that need to be converted. And there is no guarantee Wine will be able to accomodate all these applications. As far as Linux support is concerned, nope - quite easy to find them in Auckland at the moment. |
nzStan (440) | ||
| 244511 | 2004-06-15 05:22:00 | Hey Stu, If you really have that much of a bad impression of it, I think I owe you a Xandros CD ;-) Personally I think my desktop looks quite slick: sal.neoburn.net nzStan: Can I ask who you get to support you for Linux please? |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 244512 | 2004-06-15 05:23:00 | > > Pick up some Linux distro like Mandrake (or > Xandros > > and Ark which I am trying to get a copy of) and > give > > them a try. > > I would love to, but because they need to come a long > way still in ways of install them, I will not be > touching Linux for a very long time yet… Heh, that's what you think. I went for one of Jonathan Horsman Linux installation class in Auckland and was pleasantly surprised how simple it was to install Mandrake 9.1 on a standard Cyclone Intel PC. In fact because I came from Windows background it was so much more easier than the mums and dads who were in the class with me. And yeah - I didn't have to mount CD. The hardware detect did it all automatically for me, very similar to Windows Plug and Play technology. |
nzStan (440) | ||
| 244513 | 2004-06-15 05:25:00 | For example in Linux to install a program you have to login as root then you have to enter a few commands to get it to install In windows All you have to do is click on the exe & fellow the instructions |
stu120404 (268) | ||
| 244514 | 2004-06-15 05:30:00 | Contact Ian Soffe at Open System Specialists Ltd 09-630 4800 or http://www.oss.co.nz I got them to install several Suse servers to run Oracle in Auckland and a Mandrake Samba server in Hutt Valley for my branch office. |
nzStan (440) | ||
| 244515 | 2004-06-15 05:36:00 | > For example in Linux to install a program you have to > login as root then you have to enter a few commands > to get it to install > > In windows > > All you have to do is click on the exe & fellow the > instructions Stu, you gotta understand that is the fundamental difference between Windows and Linux. In Windows, it is easy to install a program because by nature we automatically assign the user as an Administrator. And it is because of this reason virus and worms so easily gain control of the system once it has been breached. In Linux, the user by default do not have root aka administrator rights. And Linux actively discourage you from giving that rights to the user. If you want to emulate the ability to install like Windows without changing to root, then you give the login user the same rights as root. But that would destroy the whole concept of how Linux handle security. In the same way, if you want Windows to emulate Linux security, change your user login to a standard user account instead of Supervisor and you will face the same installation problem. FYI that is what most corporate do, to prevent their users from installing unauthorised programs on company PC. |
nzStan (440) | ||
| 244516 | 2004-06-15 05:49:00 | I actually am determined to use Linux, Solaris, Unix or someother CLI based OS, memorise it and become amazingly good at it.... just to feel satisfied. I used Windows mainly (then the motherboard killed itself), and the only reason I use it now is to play games. But i must admit, linux aggrevates me in many ways. Such as: 1) The number of things that break and I can never ever find the solution to. 2) How slow it is 3) The ease of installing hardware and configuring it. (I had to download a new kernel last time to get sound, and then the kernel install screwed up permanently and I had to get fedora.) 4)The FONTS 5) I'm used to being all technical and shortcut-like with windows, but Alt-F2 just doesnt work for me. 6) Once again, how incredibly hard it is to find the right documentation. Because every linux distro is different, this search is then made harder by the many different ways of doing things. 7) How the hell do I install a network card? I can configure it, but not install it! How do I tell that the card is currently in the computer? What is the equivalent of device manager? 8) Overnet KEEPS BREAKING. 9) Things don't often work in the background in windows, but in linux they do it all the time. 10) It's funny that everyone always told me that linux is alot more stable than windows. I agree, i've studied the windows architecture and its flaws, but linux is not making a good name for itself. Sure nothing crashes, but nothing works for me in the first place! Besides, experts find it hard to fix my problems! That's all i can remember... |
Growly (6) | ||
| 244517 | 2004-06-15 05:55:00 | My gawd Growly. Remind me never to be in the same landing craft with you if we ever play Battlefield together. :P | nzStan (440) | ||
| 244518 | 2004-06-15 05:56:00 | Come to think of it, my experience with linux is never good. From the looks of it, chill's screen is as nice as windows, (EXPECT THE FONTS). My friends have linux working fine, just dandy... Actually come to think of it, it may be my hardware... duron's are crap. But you know what, I'll continue to use linux (or unix) purely because i want to know it inside out, even if I only use it for servers :D PS. It still runs really slowly. Also, how do i turn the hole animation when you click on things, that one where a bo comes from the centre and goes to the outside? OH AND I DISLIKE THE BLACK MOUSE. IT'S TOO SMALL. WHERE DO I CHANGE THAT? |
Growly (6) | ||
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