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Thread ID: 46183 2004-06-16 01:07:00 OT - Submision on antispam legislation - comments please aronking (2294) Press F1
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244998 2004-07-12 00:50:00 I notice from this week's "Computerworld" that the latest unwanted substance is SPIT - spam via internet telephony.

Argus
argus (366)
244999 2004-07-12 02:05:00 Perhaps we could have a spam blacklist. How this would work is I would pay say $5 for each email I want on the blacklist. Spammer will need to abide by this blacklist and would not be allowed to email those on the blacklist. The $5 per email would be used to enforce this.

How we can enforce this might be to employ a new police section devoted to the cause, court fees etc.

Those who breach the blacklist would also be fined say minimum of $2,000 per email and bar them from using an electronic device (including calculators and TV remotes) for 5 years as a maximum.

If an email comes from a spammer, I would email the offending email to the spam police and they will follow up.

This could work.


Mister Harbies
mister harbies (5607)
245000 2004-07-12 02:11:00 > * One of the several things I have against PDFs is
> that I haven't found a way to highlight the bits that
> in my eyes are important. Word documents (and
> presumably documents in other word-processor formats)
> let you do the highlighter-pen thing in a brilliant
> range of colours.

*yawn* but everyone can afford Word, and of course it's a world wide standard </sarcasm>
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438)
245001 2004-07-12 04:02:00 > *yawn* but everyone can afford Word, and of course it's a world wide
> standard </sarcasm >

I wouldn't disagree with any of that (sarcastically interpeted); I am well aware Word is proprietary and (fairly) expensive .

ALL I was saying is that . pdf documents cannot be highlighted and I like to be able to highlight my documents .

The workaround is to cut and paste the needed extracts into a separate document, but it's not as easy to work with .

Don't put me down as a Word champion just because I point to one feature about it that I like .

I could change to any OS and word processing application I (or you) like; it would still not let me highlight . pdfs . That is a disadvantage of this widely-adopted standard .

Talk to someone who's blind and you'll discover . pdfs have much more important disadvantages like not working with a lot of assistive technology; which blights some people's IT-using lives far more than not being able to highlight influences mine .

Just because . pdf is a standard doesn't stop it being an inconvenient standard in some respects .

Stop ywaning and try suggesting a solution .

Argus
argus (366)
245002 2004-07-12 04:22:00 You realise that you cannot highlight text in PDFs because it's supposed to be a copy proof document to stop people plagiarising it and so on. If you can highlight, then you can copy it much more easily than writing it out word for word! kiki (762)
245003 2004-07-12 13:05:00 I rather fear letting the gov't touch anything useful, It seems that the one forwarding the spam is not always aware of being a zombie, and we can't mandate a level of user ability with firewalls etc.

I do feel however that the person to whom you must reply for this spam to achieve it's aims should be a little easier to locate- or how could we order the anatomical enhancers? They could be obliged to pay a 50 cent fee for each received e-mail that someone complains of- and the returns sent off to charities or whatever. Every time you get a spam message, send it on to your favourite charity who can mass sue the originators.

A little off the main OT, but why do people have trouble highlighting PDF's ?
I have no trouble with this, (but getting the highlighter off the monitor is hard.)
R2
R2x1 (4628)
245004 2004-07-12 13:30:00 Argus, on the cover CD that comes with APC (Australian Personal Computer) for the month of July is a product called "Solid Converter PDF 1.0".

I haven't installed it, because I don't use Microsoft Office, nor do I have a need for it, but the statement on the CD package reads "it delivers content directly from PDFs into Microsoft Word". As far as I can discern, it is the full software, not lacking in any functionality.

Perhaps you might like to try it?
agent (30)
245005 2004-07-12 13:43:00 ISP's can see what comps are broadcasting virus's and funneling spam,they can and sometimes do disconnect them.

They should make it a rule.
metla (154)
245006 2004-07-12 22:55:00 i personaly like the USA's CAN-SPAM act.
the spammers get fined load of money and stuff
but i think... that some of that goes to the person who turned them in for not having the correct subject line, meaning you couldnt filter them out
learnt that from the late TechTv, **weeps**
Mirddes (10)
245007 2004-07-12 23:24:00 That will cause problems such as me paying $5 to blacklist a long-time enemy, just for personal reasons. As most spam originates outside NZ, and use randomly generated spoofed email addresses, such a law would not help. somebody (208)
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