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| Thread ID: 46274 | 2004-06-18 12:04:00 | OT - Education and Careers | Winston001 (3612) | Press F1 |
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| 245843 | 2004-06-20 07:41:00 | WTF makes a very good point. Some of these "qualifications" are almost bogus but the students don't know that. Courses are offered almost in desperation by institutions to get enrollments = money = viability. Never mind the shallowness of what is taught. For example, I know of a commercial fishing course where the students spent about 6 weeks watching videos of "Gone Fishing". Too many kids only see the money. They think white collar is the only choice. No one tells them about the skilled tradesmen who are laughing their way to the bank - and enjoy their work. Not everyone is able or suited to academic study. Trades are just as important. IT is great - but without a building, electricity, and plumbing, you're not going to get a lot done. The other point is the assumption that if you are a plumber, you just stop learning. Why is that? It's nonsense. None of us ever need to stop learning - there is always more. As demonstrated by some of the above posts. Education is wonderful and should be embraced. We just need to make it rich and appropriate. As opposed to "relevant" which only leads to the narrow path of complete career focus. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 245844 | 2004-06-20 10:39:00 | > Too many kids only see the money. They think white > collar is the only choice. No one tells them about > the skilled tradesmen who are laughing their way to > the bank - and enjoy their work. Amen to that. Just try getting hold of a builder/plumber/sparky these days, they are turning away work faster than anyone else, whilst all the IT trained, lawyers and teachers are combing the paper looking for jobs. |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 245845 | 2004-06-20 12:09:00 | > trained, lawyers and teachers are combing the paper > looking for jobs. Teachers and nurses are greatly demanded these days. I would consider it if money didn't matter. I don't think they get a fair pay. |
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| 245846 | 2004-06-20 12:11:00 | I must thank you, WTF, on behalf of the nation, for choosing a medical profession. We need you! Just don't go on your OE as soon as your complete with your course. I'm not considering it because I know that medical students need good grades (which at times I lose hope in). And must admit, am quite scared of blood. Too many bad experience of accidents. | ~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 245847 | 2004-06-20 13:55:00 | >Teachers and nurses are greatly demanded these days. I would consider it if money didn't matter. I don't think they get a fair pay I agree here.. I'm paid a better hourly rate than my mum, who is an RN. What I do is basically overglorified upper level helpdesk tasks.. so when helpdeskers are being paid more than RN's, something isnt quite right... |
whetu (237) | ||
| 245848 | 2004-06-20 14:11:00 | > I must thank you, WTF, on behalf of the nation, for > choosing a medical profession . Heh . . . thanks :-) But tell the government who won't fund our course as yet *mutter mutter* I know Steve Maharey won't be waiting for another Iwi consult when he calls for help, why should we for funding? Meanwhile I could become a homeopathist, beauty therapist, masseuse or rescue diver and the government'd pay . Yay! |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 245849 | 2004-06-20 14:13:00 | Gah, why doesn't this forum have an edit button!?!?!?! Was going to add that I have just submitted my last essay for this semester. The next six weeks I only have to work, not study as well! It's gunna be bliss. 1 semester to go then I get to put on a weird looking hat and a cape. |
whiskeytangofoxtrot (438) | ||
| 245850 | 2004-06-21 00:03:00 | I know that feeling WTF. Only a few measly months left and I get to wear that funny cape and hat set up as well :) I am not one of the 'young' people though. I spent around three yhears at University 10 years ago because those with good grades through to 7th Form (as it was back then) were "encouraged" to do so. I didn't enjoy the degree (Commererce) and I left without completing it. I then spent the next 7 years doing different middle management/supervisory roles in retail style outlets before deciding that I wanted to go back and gain a qualification to accompany the practical IT skills and experience I held. The reason for this was that without that piece of paper it was vitually impossible to get my skills recognised by a prospective employer. So after struggling through 2 1/2 years on virtually no money (with a wife and two infants to support) I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel. The scary part is I still have no employment lined up for after graduation in my field. I do have employment available though - full-time as a salesman at the appliance store where I am currently working part-time (and BTW these salesman can make some good money between salaries and our companies sales bonus structure) |
southern_jas (4017) | ||
| 245851 | 2004-06-21 07:58:00 | > 1 semester to go then I get to put on a weird looking > hat and a cape. Just out of interest, what is degree are you studying to? Which institution? |
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| 245852 | 2004-06-22 04:45:00 | for me it is a B.Info.Tech at Otago Polytechnic :) | southern_jas (4017) | ||
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