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247050 2004-06-23 09:26:00 i happen to notice that on fair go on tv1 they had a story about dailers (again) and they gave the addy for adaware. unfortunatly the gave the WRONG address. www.ada-ware.com is for spyassian a paid spyware removal program. can't the media ever get it right ! they made no mention of useing antivirus or firewalls both of which will pick rouge dailers.

i tried to email them but i got "email server error" go tvnz :(
tweak'e (174)
247051 2004-06-23 09:34:00 Good work. Growly (6)
247052 2004-06-23 10:00:00 Well anyone thinking they'll get credible IT info on FairGo should think again. Also anyone thinking they'll get up-to-date and most recent IT info from the NZ Herald should also think again. kiki (762)
247053 2004-06-23 10:06:00 Yeah, and it was all the fault of Telecom, Ihug, and Telstra/Clear. Nothing said about people getting advice when they buy a computer.

This stuff is preventable if people would deal with specialist computer shops. You can't expect advice from the Warehouse or even Noel Leeming.

But no. Buy the cheapest or flashiest machine and when the enormous toll bill arrives - blame the telephone provider. Of course.
Winston001 (3612)
247054 2004-06-23 10:14:00 winston you just reminded me of something i forgot to mention.

very liitle has been said about these ones where the calls from the pc are made when the people are away (overseas etc). unless someone powered the pc up or the pc has been woken up via a phone call there is no way they could make the call. therefore why are they being charged ??
i'm surprised fairgo hasn't made an issue of this.
tweak'e (174)
247055 2004-06-23 10:29:00 Got an email off in lieu of your one tweak'e, I added a bit of info re securing your PC with url's to usefull sites, couldn't help it ;) Hopefully it hits the right mark.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
247056 2004-06-23 10:36:00 I read tonight the big four email providers (Yahoo, Hotmail etc) are talking about shutting down zombies untill they get their machines cleaned up. Fair enough I say. Anything to reduce spam. mikebartnz (21)
247057 2004-06-23 10:40:00 cheers murray ....hopefully they will get their act together.

mayby they should include a bit about internet banking.....had another pc today that had a trojen on it :(
tweak'e (174)
247058 2004-06-23 11:05:00 > This stuff is preventable if people would deal with
> specialist computer shops. You can't expect advice
> from the Warehouse or even Noel Leeming.

I don't think it is reasonable to expect any computer retailer to give a course on using the internet when a person buys a computer.
If Spyware or Firewalls were happened to be mentioned it would go over most peoples heads anyway when they may not even know what a web browser is.

It is up to individuals when they buy any equipment to make themselves familiar with all the safety aspects and to take responsibility for it.
There is plenty of information available, the bookshops are full of guides to using the internet and if people do not bother to make the effort then they only have themselves to blame.

It is not easy to get dialers installed. they generally don't just jump on without some imput from the user and only then if they are accessing certain types of websites.

Anti-Virus and Firewalls are of limited use for preventing installation of dialers, it is more important to have the browser security levels set to medium or higher and all the latest MS updates and patches installed.

They could also buy a Mac instead and never have Spyware, Virus or Dialer problems.
Jim B (153)
247059 2004-06-23 11:17:00 Probel is Jim most people will get their new beastie home, pull the wrapper off and plug er in. First thing they do is probably hit the internet, unless perhaps its a gaming machine (can you even buy those off the shelf ;\ )

One way to do it, would be to put a tutorial on the PC along with all the others but, with precedence. A nice annoying nag window with hard to find Go Away For Ever button would do the trick, it could even pop up when virus definitions, etc, are more than a week old.

Now that's what I call Trusted computing ;).

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
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