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247030 2004-06-23 09:01:00 Hi,

So I went and bought a modem to get some internet in Linux (Mandrake 9.1 I think)... it said it had Linux driver source and instructions to get it going.

So I followed the instructions, and it gets near the end and I get a message that says something like "Operation not permitted". I can't get past that point, and therefore I can't get my modem to install. I went to the intel site and downloaded the latest version of the driver source, and it does the same thing.

The intel site has a precompiled version of the driver, but for a different kernel version (I've got something like 2.4.19 and the precompiled driver was for 2.4.21) - would that possibly work, or is it unlikely?

When it says "Operation not permitted" the installer is trying to delete "/dev/536ep". I get the same message if I try to delete it manually.

How can I get this to work? Or should I take the modem back to DSE for a refund?

I am logged in as root, and have tried from the GUI in a console window, and to a direct boot to command prompt.

Help! :)

Mike. 		Mike (15)
247031 2004-06-23 09:28:00 > So I went and bought a modem to get some internet in
> Linux (Mandrake 9.1 I think)... it said it had Linux
> driver source and instructions to get it going.

Do you have a link for that modem? It may help if we can see a bit more information about the device.

> The intel site has a precompiled version of the
> driver, but for a different kernel version (I've got
> something like 2.4.19 and the precompiled driver was
> for 2.4.21) - would that possibly work, or is it
> unlikely?

You need to get the precompiled driver which exactly matches your current running kernel. You can confirm which kernel you are using by entering into a console window uname -r.

Are you trying to compile the driver from source? If you would like to use a precompiled driver, you could always upgrade your kernel to a version which is still supported. Precomplied kernels can be installed using RPM's, but you should also get the matching kernel source and also install that (saves hassles later). 		Jen C (20)
247032 2004-06-23 09:37:00 >When it says "Operation not permitted" the installer is trying to delete "/dev/536ep". I get the same message if I try to delete it manually.
Well there is the problem. It may be in use because as you are logged in as root you have permission.
Sounds like a HaM modem which is not as good as an external serial modem. I gather the USB ones aren't as good as the serial. 		mikebartnz (21)
247033 2004-06-23 10:23:00 > Do you have a link for that modem? It may help if we
> can see a bit more information about the device.

Here's the link to the modem at DSE. The Intel drivers etc. can be found here.

> > The intel site has a precompiled version of the
> > driver, but for a different kernel version (I've
> got
> > something like 2.4.19 and the precompiled driver
> was
> > for 2.4.21) - would that possibly work, or is it
> > unlikely?
>
> You need to get the precompiled driver which exactly
> matches your current running kernel. You can confirm
> which kernel you are using by entering into a console
> window uname -r.

My kernel version is 2.4.21-0.13mdk. The precompiled drivers appear to be for Mandrake 9.2 (I'm using 9.1), and a kernel of 2.4.22. There is a precompiled Mandrake SMP system driver for my kernel, but my system isn't SMP. (kernel 2.4.21-0.13.mdksmp)

> Are you trying to compile the driver from source? If
> you would like to use a precompiled driver, you could
> always upgrade your kernel to a version which is
> still supported. Precomplied kernels can be
> installed using RPM's, but you should also get the
> matching kernel source and also install that (saves
> hassles later).

I'm trying to compile the driver from source included with the modem on the driver CD. I've followed all the instructions but I hit that "not permitted" error. Where would I look for a new kernel? And what size download am I looking at (remembering that I'm 56k here!)

Its probably more worth my while for me to go to Dick Smith and buy their Mandrake 9.2 set for $8.95, then the precompiled modem drivers would (might) work. :)

Thanks Jen.

Mike. 		Mike (15)
247034 2004-06-23 10:29:00 > > When it says "Operation not permitted" the installer
> > is trying to delete "/dev/536ep". I get the same
> > message if I try to delete it manually.
> Well there is the problem. It may be in use because
> as you are logged in as root you have permission.

Is there a way to stop the device being in use?

> Sounds like a HaM modem which is not as good as an
> external serial modem. I gather the USB ones aren't
> as good as the serial.

Yes, and the external serial modems are more expensive :(

Cheers,
Mike. 		Mike (15)
247035 2004-06-23 10:47:00 >Is there a way to stop the device being in use?
You would probably need to change the run level

>Yes, and the external serial modems are more expensive
About twice the price but well worth it. 		mikebartnz (21)
247036 2004-06-23 21:49:00 How about trying a reinstall of Mandrake? It ought to detect the modem itself and set it all up for you then. dudess_on_a_mish (4468)
247037 2004-06-23 23:37:00 Hi Mike

>I'm trying to compile the driver from source included with the modem on the driver CD . I've followed all the instructions but I hit that "not permitted" error .

You are not the only one who has this problem with Mandrake 9 . 1 and the Intel 836ep chipset - there is some information here ( . linuxquestions . org/questions/showthread . php?threadid=62853" target="_blank">www . linuxquestions . org) which may help .

>Where would I look for a new kernel? And what size download am I looking at (remembering that I'm 56k here!)

You can find servers for the older Mandrake releases here ( . linux-mandrake . com/en/ftp . php3#older" target="_blank">www . linux-mandrake . com) and then look for the rpm's for the 2 . 4-22 kernel, but for the source alone, you are looking at a 40 MB download and then the kernel itself which is smaller .

>Its probably more worth my while for me to go to Dick Smith and buy their Mandrake 9 . 2 set for $8 . 95, then the precompiled modem drivers would (might) work .

I think this would be your best bet as well, certainly much easier than downloading and installing new kernel . Just had a look at DSE and they sell a 4-CD set ( . dse . co . nz/cgi-bin/dse . storefront/en/product/XC4028" target="_blank">www . dse . co . nz) of Mandrake 9 . 2 for just $4 . :) 		Jen C (20)
247038 2004-06-24 02:34:00 Mike: Are you are doing this as root? You should have the "#" instead of "$" as the last character of the prompt. If not, ]b]su -[/b] then try again. If you are working as root, TELL it to do it: rm -f /dev/536ep. Graham L (2)
247039 2004-06-24 08:13:00 > Mike: Are you are doing this as root?

I certainly am :)

Mike . 		Mike (15)
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