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247017 2004-06-23 08:54:00 Ok
Any website designers out there???
Or just anyone who is interested!!!

What are the good and bad things about inline frames on a web page?????

Thanks
pippajg (5634)
247018 2004-06-23 09:03:00 They're annoying :) regular frames are better. I had problems formatting things to fit nicely in all browsers and at many resolutions. Using a table might work better.

Mike.
Mike (15)
247019 2004-06-23 09:05:00 Yeah I agree..tables are easier. just my partner likes inline frames and I was taught to steer clear of them.....
But also am open to any ideas and opinions.
Pip
pippajg (5634)
247020 2004-06-23 09:11:00 Well look at it this way... how many sites out there do you see with inline frames?

I don't think I've seen many (if any) in the last couple of years. Web developers etc. seem to stay away from them. Most webpage for dummies type books don't even mention them.

Mike.
Mike (15)
247021 2004-06-23 09:32:00 > Most webpage for dummies type books don't even mention them
Ok I have heard of them but don't understand exactly what they are.
mikebartnz (21)
247022 2004-06-23 13:01:00 The bad thing about using any frames is you are viewing more than webpage at a time, and when you want good search engine results people could be directed to the inline frame thats has more keywords instead of the complete page as you designed it, thus probally not beeing able to see the rest of your website.

Rob
Rob99 (151)
247023 2004-06-24 00:13:00 > Any website designers out there???

Yep :)

I have to agree with both Mike, pippajg, mikebartnz & Rob99 in what they have said about Inline Frames or what some people call them IFrames

Also I think IFrames/ Inline Frames, only works in IE, so I am guessing that one reason of many why website designers don’t use it much......

Also in php you can a better IFrames/ Inline Frames & it works in all browsers!

Hope this helps :)
stu120404 (268)
247024 2004-06-24 03:23:00 There is one bonus to using inline frames over tables - speed.

If you have a large (lot of data) page being loaded using a table, the browser will not display any information when it hits the opening table tag until it hits the closing table tag. This means that if you have 40K of information (say, a couple of pictures and some text) inside the table, the viewer gets no feedback until the browser gets to the "close table" tag. That can be a long time - maybe only 30-60 seconds, but it will feel like a loooooong time staring at a blank browser.
(There are ways to make a table render as the browser processes it, this involves specifying the width and various other properties of the table and each item it contains.)

An inline frame will allow the browser to render both the main page and the inline frame at once, effectively speeding up the download of the information to the PC - as a single page is unlikely to use the entire bandwidth the modem is capable of (similar to how download managers work with splitting files). This means faster feedback for the viewer.

Inline frames have their place, as do tables; however, I would recommend you try and use style sheets over and above both.

By the way, iframes are part of the HTML 4.0 specification (www.w3.org) so they should work in most browsers.
antmannz (28)
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