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Thread ID: 46440 2004-06-23 22:52:00 Life of LCD vs CRT Screens Steve_L (763) Press F1
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247182 2004-06-24 12:20:00 Economics again rears it's head. To make them cheaper , a number of manufacturers are integrating the backlights into the unit. This makes them "throw=away" items.

Metla is right too, each manufacturer has their own method of working out what positon/number/light or dark dead pixels constitute a replacement under warranty. They can even arrive with a couple of dead pixels and not be covered by warranty.

You pays your money and you take your chances.

Coming soon that may be more economic, is organic displays. Mmm hold there a moment...just got to feed my display. :D
Pheonix (280)
247183 2004-06-24 20:08:00 *chrunch munch crunch* mmmm

:D
willie_M (5608)
247184 2004-06-24 21:48:00 Many of the new LCD's come with zero dead pixel guarantees, if you see a dead pixel on it they replace it. I have just received (start of this month) a Samsung Syncmaster 172x and it is used for video, gaming, commercial web design and a bit of photo editing. I have no problem with the colours or the response of the display. The first time I played Far Cry on it I had to muck about for a bit setting up the contrast and brightness to display the black correctly but now I don't even notice I'm playing on a LCD. LCD's have come a long way recently and colour rendering is quite acceptable IMO. DVD's look fine on it although not as good as a widescreen TV (obviously). Of course the quality of the monitors varies quite a bit and it is best to do your research and see a few before you make your choice. The best thing about an LCD.....the great expanse of workspace left on your desk when you drop kick that huge, chunky and heavy CRT out the door. I wouldn't go back to a CRT if you paid me.....well it depends how much you'd pay me ;-) Sb0h (3744)
247185 2004-06-24 22:18:00 I would agree that they have improved, the ones I used a year ago were greatly inferior to the ones I handle now, however 90 percent of lcd's on the market do not come with a zero stuck pixel warranty and none (to my knowledge) come with a zero tolerance dead pixel warranty (dead and stuck are 2 different issues)..A dead pixel is far easier to live with then a stuck one.


The inability to display shades correctly is still an issue as far as I am aware, whether its of any real-world concern is another matter entirely.

My next monitor purchase will be an Lcd, however I have 3 17" crt's that will have to die before I part with any cash, so i should be set for a good 15 years...
metla (154)
247186 2004-06-24 22:32:00 The "glass" referred to as being at risk from scratching is the polarising layer bonded on the front of the screen. Directly under this is a hard glass layer.

The exact make-up of the filter layer is unknown, as to being a pure glass (unlikely) or a synthetic mix (likely).

I have never seen a badly (or even slightly) scratched LCD monitor, so have the logical assumption that it is reasonably durable.
godfather (25)
247187 2004-06-25 02:05:00 The Sony SDMX series offer a zero dead pixel guarantee and the Viewsonic VE series offer a 12 month zero pixel fault guarantee. I would take the Viewsonic wording to mean ANY pixel fault, stuck, dead or otherwise.

FWIW I have searched intensively over my Samsung and have not found any pixel faults.
Sb0h (3744)
247188 2004-06-25 02:26:00 Thats interesting,i'll have to look into it further,i'm a big fan of worthwhile garentee's.

and if you did have a pixel fault you wouldn't have had to search for it intensivley,they stick out like dogs balls.
metla (154)
247189 2004-06-25 04:28:00 Yeah, my laptop has a bung pixel and its an annoying dark spot....I thought it was dust at first and tried cleaning it away....bah cheap laptop LCD's. Sb0h (3744)
247190 2004-06-25 05:01:00 In a strange twist of fate,trust me i never went looking for this it was sitting on the main page of madonion....

here (discuss.futuremark.com)
metla (154)
247191 2004-06-25 05:18:00 my parents computers (not used for gaming) both have phillips 170B4 17inch LCD's and they are very happy with them (althugh i must say once i got my computer with an crt i oculd notice the difference when playing movies/games), but i can recall a piece of paper that came with these screens that said something about a lifetime screen replacement warranty in the event of any dead and or stuck pixels :D lagbort (5041)
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