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| Thread ID: 46507 | 2004-06-26 02:42:00 | Modem, House Wiring, or Gremlins | B.M. (505) | Press F1 |
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| 247694 | 2004-06-27 01:06:00 | The offer's still there BM, will most likely pop in and see mum in the Mount mid-late PM. email splatty at orcon dot net dot nz if you want. J :D |
Jester (13) | ||
| 247695 | 2004-06-27 01:11:00 | Their not home at the moment Jester but thanks anyway. Cheers Bob |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 247696 | 2004-06-27 01:20:00 | dailup networking upgrade here (www.microsoft.com) check make/model of modem and see if there is any new drivers for it. i assume motherboard drivers etc are installed ????? otherwise all i can suggest is to put both pc's in their house and try them useing EXACTLY the same leads etc. btw what is the pc's specs? |
tweak'e (174) | ||
| 247697 | 2004-06-27 03:05:00 | Too close is usually line current related rather than level, but you're neighbours so how much difference can there be. Telecom's recommended fax levels were conservative purely because some Pacific island satellite links gave trouble at normal levels. The MS dialup networking update is most likely NOT on the security disk. | PaulD (232) | ||
| 247698 | 2004-06-27 06:16:00 | Update team. I cut the third wires (Blue pin 4) in the main jackpoint plus removed the test termination from the entry point and blow me down we have lift off. The computer connects and runs like a rocket and the two cordless phones work 100%. Only problem is he has an ordinary phone in the garage and it no longer rings! Not entirely unexpected seeing Id cut the ringing wire at the main jackpoint, but I cant see for the love of me how to convert the phone back to 2 wire. The phone is a RENTEL 410 Telepermit 202/91/002 Anyone any suggestions on this. Im still lost for a technical explanation as to what was annoying the modem initially. It would seem the third ringing wire was causing the problem even when no phones were connected to the jackpoints. I suppose I should check for a high resistance earth or something on one of the wires. Ill do that tomorrow. Alternativly I guess the test termination could be series resonant to whatever frequency the Modem works at and was sucking most of the signal? Hmmmmmm I wonder? ?:| It's all very well getting the damn thing going but I really would like to understand what the problem was! :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 247699 | 2004-06-27 07:07:00 | I'm not sure that cutting the wire off is a complete conversion Bob. When I rewired my house in preparation for Jetstream I was advised by Telecom to convert to the new 2 wire outlets. In fact, they do not guarantee Jetstream performance on 3 wire installations. I did that throughout and had no problems. Maybe one of our telecom techs might be able to explain. Alternatively, full data on the 2 wire standard is available on Telecom's website. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 247700 | 2004-06-27 07:12:00 | The modem should be a 2 wire device connecting to the 2nd and 5th contacts on the plug that goes into the phone socket. I've struck cords that have the 3rd wire also connecting to something at the modem end shorting the capacitor causing the 3 wire phones to ring. Quick fix was to lever the center 2 contacts out of the modem's BT phone plug. The master jack and TTU are 1.8uF + 470K R, even a double term should have little effect at analogue modem frequencies |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 247701 | 2004-06-27 10:18:00 | The 410 won't ring without the 3rd wire from the master or with 2 wire jacks.What you have done is actually convert the jacks to a secondary jack,and with no 3rd wire,the phone won't ring.Go to Dick Smiths,or the Wharehouse and get some 2 wire jacks to replace them all. Peter |
Peter Coleman (597) | ||
| 247702 | 2004-06-27 20:12:00 | Yes replacement of the jacks would certainly seem the thing to do, however, the existing jackpoints are not the standard square box provided by Dicky Smith, but a larger light switch size with stainless steel face plates. As its a rather nice house I dont think hed appreciate the large hole in the wall that a standard jackpoint would leave when fitted. It would seem that whilst one can turn these 410 phones into a musical instrument with adjustments for Volume, Tone, length of ring and so on you cant actually change them to two wire so as to get them to ring in the first place. :( Sooooooo, maybe some adjustment to the jackpoint like a 0.1uf capacitor slung between terminals 2 & 3 might do the trick? However, it will have to wait a while as Ive got to go to Hamilton and fix the mother-in-laws stove. I told her to keep the coal range! :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 247703 | 2004-06-28 01:20:00 | Dick Smith don't really have a huge range. Try your local Ideal Electrical store, they have all manner of eletrical / phone modules. | antmannz (28) | ||
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