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| 250118 | 2004-07-08 00:11:00 | My game settings are all about midway, card's settings are all default. I play at 1024x768 and get 25-35fps in America's Army | Greg S (201) | ||
| 250119 | 2004-07-08 00:21:00 | Well to start with Americas Army is designed for multiplayer and doesn't have demanding graphics by any standard,plus the model of card you have is incapable of rendering more recent dx effects so it ignores them,were a more modern card would attempt to render them and performance would suffer. This is why a g4mx can outperform many better cards in such games as Halo. and 25-35 fps is terrible,i would upgrade.....:D The entire point of pc gaming is to have shading,lighting,detail,particles and a good framerate,all things that would kill a lesser card. Only my point of view though. |
metla (154) | ||
| 250120 | 2004-07-08 00:27:00 | > The entire point of pc gaming is to ... ...kill the evil sons of spawn enemy! :D (which I do quite effectively) ;) |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 250121 | 2004-07-08 01:16:00 | > My game settings are all about midway, card's > settings are all default. I play at 1024x768 and get > 25-35fps in America's Army AA was designed to run on Geforce 2 hardware with reasonable framerates so i'd hope you could run it on your 9000. Most modern games such as Battlefield Vietnam and Unreal Tournament 2004 require a 9600 alteast, and thats just for 1024x768 with low levels of AA + AF. |
Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
| 250122 | 2004-07-08 01:32:00 | > AA was designed to run on Geforce 2 hardware with > reasonable framerates so i'd hope you could run it on > your 9000. Most modern games such as Battlefield > Vietnam and Unreal Tournament 2004 require a 9600 > alteast, and thats just for 1024x768 with low levels > of AA + AF. Actually UT2004 runs great - although I haven't got a clue what the framerates are. Probably shocking but it really appears fine. Maybe I'm just not used to any better :^O |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 250123 | 2004-07-08 01:58:00 | I used to play Far Cry with a Geforce2 (with no detail), and didn't know what I was missing until I upgraded to a Radeon 9800 pro. Really if you want to get the best gaming experience you need a good gaming card. The game may be "playable" at a crap resolution and with terrible frame rates but there's a whole 'nother level of enjoyment when you have a good card. :D |
Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 250124 | 2004-07-08 02:24:00 | > Actually UT2004 runs great - although I haven't got a > clue what the framerates are . Probably shocking but > it really appears fine . Maybe I'm just not used to > any better :^O > Do you have AF + AA turned on? what about in game detail settings? What are they set at? Im not trying to offend but i think it would be possiable to make UT2K4 run a gf2mx . Having a nice resolution, reasonably high detail settings and in game graphics options turned to high really do make a difference . I recently went from a Geforce 4 Ti4200 to a Radeon 9800pro and didnt expect to see much difference . This enabled me to turn on AF + AA and crank up the in game detail settings . The gaming experience is so much better now, im finally able to unlock the full potential of games such as UT2K4 and BFV . As said earlier by melta if you dont want to use AA + AF, you want low resolutions and crap detail then buy a console its alot cheaper . Gaming on the PC isnt a cheap hobby, but its just so much more rewarding than gaming on a console . If you shop around and invest your money wisely you can get a good pc capable of playing most modern games with some AA + AF, 1024x768 res, and moderate in game detail settings for under $2000 . You dont nessesarily need the most powerful card known to man but your doing yourselve a disservice if you game on a low end card . At the end of the day you have to decide how important eye candy is to you . If you dont game that often you can live without high end cards, but the moment you taste all the eye candy goodness you'll be hooked . (its amazing how many people who game dont know what AA + AF is, and then say that their graphics cards can handle all the modern games . ) |
Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
| 250125 | 2004-07-08 02:45:00 | > Do you have AF + AA turned on? Both set to Application Preference > what about in game > detail settings? In UT2004 they're on the highest . In AA they're all mid-level . > As said > earlier by melta if you dont want to use AA + AF, you > want low resolutions and crap detail The detail etc looks great on both games . > then buy a > console its alot cheaper . No thanks > If you shop around and invest > your money wisely you can get a good pc capable of > playing most modern games with some AA + AF, 1024x768 > res, and moderate in game detail settings for under > $2000 . Why would I go spend two grand when I have a perfectly adequate setup already . It might be worth it if I was a hardcore fanatic gamer . But I'm not a hardcore fanatic gamer . > At the end of the day you have to decide how > important eye candy is to you . It's not - I play for the simulated action . My PC is a work machine, with powerful enough graphics to handle the likes of Photoshop and half a dozen apps simultaneously . > (its amazing how many people who game dont know what > AA + AF is, and then say that their graphics cards > can handle all the modern games It's amazing how many people don't know what the radius of the moon is to know that it affects Earth's gravity . Knowing exactly how anastropic filtering and anti-aliasing work doesn't mean I can't switch them on or off to find the best settings > |
Greg S (201) | ||
| 250126 | 2004-07-08 02:51:00 | Couple of points. He never said you had to know how Anti-ailising works,just that its there.....and you obviously do so its a moot point anyhow... as to this-"The detail etc looks great on both games"....please don't kid yourself,the picture quality and framerate of your card is at the very bottom of the scale. Not to say you shouldn't like it exactly how it is but there can be no doubt it can't even begin to get traction against even a current mid-range card. |
metla (154) | ||
| 250127 | 2004-07-08 02:58:00 | > Couple of points. > > He never said you had to know how Anti-ailising > works,just that its there.....and you obviously do so > its a moot point anyhow... yep > > as to this-"The detail etc looks great on both > games"....please don't kid yourself,the picture > quality and framerate of your card is at the very > bottom of the scale. > > Not to say you shouldn't like it exactly how it is > but there can be no doubt it can't even begin to get > traction against even a current mid-range card. I'll have to go and look at a demo somewhere to be able to evaluate that. Suffice it to say I've been quite happy with what I've got, apart from the framerate which I guess could be a lot better (I've heard of some guys getting 100fps!) :O |
Greg S (201) | ||
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