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251874	2004-07-12 11:28:00	wats better 1.5 atholon or my 2.0ghz celeron	Hiren (3722)
251875	2004-07-12 11:30:00	Many benchmarks indicate the AMD spanks the celeron,it depends on how you use the comp though,you may never see the difference.	metla (154)
251876	2004-07-12 11:34:00	> > Besides,No man should be made to suffer a celery. > > Yeah, but they do have their time and place. In our > office, Celerons were the choice made when going for > the upgrade as they were used only for email, word > processing, data base work, etc. > > Not high intensive DivX encoding or any graphical > work... so they do have a time and place. > > Lo. I disagree 100 percent (with all due respect of course), for the same amount one could have purchased a much better performing AMD unit, so how are the celerons even justified as being on the market? I fail to see how anyone making an educated purchase would buy one, let alone an office full.	metla (154)
251877	2004-07-12 13:02:00	> I disagree 100 percent (with all due respect of > course), for the same amount one could have purchased > a much better performing AMD unit, so how are the > celerons even justified as being on the market? Much better performing? In what sense? In that it will open office applications a few milliseconds faster? While I agree with some parts of your argument, the simple fact is that we managed to get the Celeron cheaper than the AMD equivalent at the time. What's more, the entire office uses their PC's to do word processing, access email, etc. Not for gaming, sound editing, or DivX encoding. > I fail to see how anyone making an educated purchase > would buy one, let alone an office full. Why not? All the benchmarks in the world would translate to a minimal difference in performance in real world applications... Remember, our office is not looking at gaming at all, just run of the mill word processing and email. Lo.	Lohsing (219)
251878	2004-07-12 13:10:00	> > I disagree 100 percent (with all due respect of > > course), for the same amount one could have > purchased > > a much better performing AMD unit, so how are the > > celerons even justified as being on the market? > > Much better performing? In what sense? In that it > will open office applications a few milliseconds > faster? While I agree with some parts of your > argument, the simple fact is that we managed to get > the Celeron cheaper than the AMD equivalent at the > time. > > What's more, the entire office uses their PC's to do > word processing, access email, etc. Not for gaming, > sound editing, or DivX encoding. > > > I fail to see how anyone making an educated > purchase > > would buy one, let alone an office full. > > Why not? All the benchmarks in the world would > translate to a minimal difference in performance in > real world applications... Remember, our office is > not looking at gaming at all, just run of the mill > word processing and email. > > Lo. I can wrap up my entire point quite simply,Value for money. More bang for your buck. The better product at the better price. And being a fanboy i don't believe for a second you purchased a celeray cpu for less then an amd with comparable performance,Heck,the latest Celery's are less powerful then the last 2 generation's of amd AMD's. Simply put,they don't compare. You would have to look back to a discontinued line of AMD cpu's to find one that performed as poorly as your celeron, AMD should be paying me for this spin,Anychance i can ask what model celeron's you purchased?	metla (154)
251879	2004-07-12 13:14:00	Meh so worked up in my amd frenzy that the entire post is dominated by bad spelling. I’ll just say it was deliberate and move on....	metla (154)
251880	2004-07-12 13:14:00	> I can wrap up my entire point quite simply,Value for > money. > > More bang for your buck. > > The better product at the better price. Hehe... I knew you were going to go there... I believe there were other points to consider as well. I asked for a near silent PC as it was a quiet office environment, as well as an integrated mobo with everything on it... Lan, audio, video. I'm not sure whether the AMD equivalent could provide that? > And being a fanboy i don't believe for a second you > purchased a celeray cpu for less then an amd with > comparable performance,Heck,the latest Celery's are > less powerful then the last 2 generation's of amd > AMD's. Of course you can't buy a celeron for less than an AMD with comparable performance. Never said you could. > AMD should be paying me for this spin,Anychance i can > ask what model celeron's you purchased? Celeron 2.0Ghz. Lo.	Lohsing (219)
251881	2004-07-12 13:21:00	>>Hehe . . . I knew you were going to go there . . . I believe there were other points to consider as well . I asked for a near silent PC as it was a quiet office environment, as well as an integrated mobo with everything on it . . . Lan, audio, video . >>I'm not sure whether the AMD equivalent could provide that? Lo, You should have bought me in as assistant consultant AMD fanboy on the project . . . . . Here’s what I’m thinking . . . Massively over clocked AMD's with water-cooling . Cheap, fast, awesome value for money . . . . . . . . And Silent . Office apps would open at breakneck speed, The bragging rights would last for years, Morale would skyrocket, Profits would triple, The world would be a better place . . . . . . all because of three little letters . . . . . . . AMD .	metla (154)
251882	2004-07-12 13:29:00	> Lo, You should have bought me in as assistant > consultant AMD fanboy on the project..... I dunno, eh... I'm to Intel and nVidia, what you are to ATI and AMD. It's like the good side vs the dark side! It's never too late to come back to the light, Metla... Incidentally, my setup is a sweet watercooled P4 3.0... vid card is watercooled too... :D > Here’s what I’m thinking... > > Massively over clocked AMD's with water-cooling. You know... our office server is really struggling now that we've installed SBS2003 Premium on it... what with Symantec, ISA, Exchange Server, etc running on it... I was thinking of retiring my home PC and converting it over for the office to use... a watercooled P4 with 4 X 120gig SATA drives in RAID 5 config all in removable caddies. :D But the next round of technology doesn't exactly inspire me to upgrade just yet. I'd have to say Intel have shot themselves in the foot by restricting the overclockability of their new CPU's. Lo.	Lohsing (219)
251883	2004-07-12 13:37:00	>>I dunno, eh... I'm to Intel and nVidia, what you are to ATI and AMD. It's like the good side vs the dark side! It's never too late to come back to the light, Metla... Im not so much against Intel as i like to put across,as much as i think the celeron is a blight upon us all,I think the p4 has its place,If i was not counting every dollar i would probally own one myself,as it is im putting together a nice powerful P4 rig in the morning.....and i talked the guy into going Intel (well,suggested the P4 would suit his needs better) after finding out what he uses his comp for.	metla (154)
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