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Thread ID: 136106	2014-01-20 08:13:00	Secure wipe data	Nomad (952)	Press F1

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1365618	2014-01-20 08:13:00	Hi, we have looked at Dban this wipes everything right not just free space? If I make a HD image, Dban the entire HD 3x passes the DoD approach and then reload the image that is ok right? Selling a old PC . Thanks .	Nomad (952)
1365619	2014-01-20 09:36:00	The way you have asked / Described = NO!! Saying you make a Image - Wiping drive - Load back Image -- You have just loaded back the original including any hidden, previous files. What you can do is wipe drive, then install from fresh the OS/ Drivers.	wainuitech (129)
1365620	2014-01-20 10:06:00	At the moment I have deleted the Windows profiles. So the user data is gone. If I make an image and DBAN it and reload the image. Can they still undelete my previous deleted stuff?	Nomad (952)
1365621	2014-01-20 11:14:00	^^ should work OK. I don't know of any Ghost app that backs up deleted data. The secure deletion is to basically "mess" with the 1's and 0's on the HDD so they're unable to be recovered or "guessed" for recovery. I've used DBAN, it's nice, easy, effective.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1365622	2014-01-20 19:05:00	Look at what you are asking: If I make an image and DBAN it and reload the image. Can they still undelete my previous deleted stuff? Image the drive, wipe the drive then put back the image = Putting back exactly what you set out to wipe in the first place. DBANing the drive is not 100%, even from their own website: DBAN users should be aware of some product limitations, including: No guarantee that data is removed ( but for general usage its fine) I don't know of any Ghost app that backs up deleted data. Active @ will -- I've had to do it before many times, make an image of a failing drive, then run data recovery though the image , got files and mails back from Years before that had been deleted, some email even went back as far as 1995. When you delete something its still there, imaging a drive ( if the program is any good) will image everything, including the deleted items.	wainuitech (129)
1365623	2014-01-20 21:28:00	He's wanting to delete the "personal" files, which have been "deleted" but wanting to now "securely" delete them, then restore the machine to a "working" state without those personal files. Of course DBAN have that disclaimer, but it's _all_ that the app does is data removal, it's a standard disclaimer. And no, imaging a drive won't do a byte-for-byte image, that's a crazy waste of space and would mean that if you're backing up a 1TB drive, you'll get roughly a 1TB (compressed) backup, even if you only have 20GB worth of data.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1365624	2014-01-20 21:34:00	And no, imaging a drive won't do a byte-for-byte image, Explain then why If I image a drive, dump it back on another HDD, and then run a data recovery program through it I can recover deleted Items ? Also Acronis will By using Acronis True Image, drive imaging program, you simply create an image of hard drive at an exact period in time. It makes a byte-by-byte copy of your full hard drive, including all of your data, applications and Windows while maintaining the identical data structure. Some software has options to image in various ways.	wainuitech (129)
1365625	2014-01-20 23:58:00	Could be either depending on the program and options chosen (I.e. if you are 'imaging' the drive or the the filesystem on it). I really wouldn't leave a used windows install on it if selling - there is way too much stuff hidden throughout to be sure you are not leaving something you shouldn't. Wipe the drive - do a fresh install. Edit: also a simple zero-fill is all that's needed, the DOD bollocks is simply fanboy hype. If someone capable of recovering overwritten data is after you, you have bigger problems than what is got off your sold pc...	fred_fish (15241)
1365626	2014-01-21 00:45:00	also a simple zero-fill is all that's needed. +1 And yep, you can undelete off a restored image - all depends on the imaging software, the good ones do..... But unless it's top secret stuff, it's also overkill........just wipe it, do a new install on the old one and off it goes....most people neither know nor care if there was something there before....	pctek (84)
1365627	2014-01-21 02:40:00	Could be either depending on the program and options chosen (I.e. if you are 'imaging' the drive or the the filesystem on it). Pretty much the truth right there. Some do, some don't.	Chilling_Silence (9)
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