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Thread ID: 134294	2013-06-17 15:18:00	Unbundle Sky network for ADSL2 like rural SATELITE broadband	Mirddes (10)	PC World Chat

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1346141	2013-06-17 15:18:00	it'll be way better than dialup. how much do these HD channels use anyhow? must be atleast 9mbit for a 1080i stream, thats a few TB each month. (24/7) a 100GB plan with adsl2 speeds (for everything but gaming) is more than possible. should be mandated to be offered. who honestly thinks this is a bad idea? gotta be rural folk for your disdain to count.	Mirddes (10)
1346142	2013-06-17 21:45:00	You realise there's far more to it than just "lol hey lets give them broadband through their sky dish", right? You'd at very least have to wait till they get Optus10 operational.	inphinity (7274)
1346143	2013-06-17 22:06:00	Current Sat internet technology has some big limitations, latency being one. Usually 4-600ms minimum. Also bandwith is an issue, yeah it works OK for a few thousand rural customers but if you put too many on you're putting a lot of pressure on a small link on the sat and upgrading sats to cope with the extra bandwith (and then upgrading consumer hardware) ends up running into the billions of dollars. Satellites, although good for helping out for some customers are far far to costly to maintain and operate as a mainstream service provider. Usually the capacity provided for sat broadband is provided by add on modules as such to larger purpose built satellites such as the Optus and Intelsat units. Companies like sky lease the space and bandwith for their equipment. A dedicated sat might be able to provide the required capacity but it's far to expensive. A better option would be to provide people with proper ADSL equipment and education as to what's going on with their line. Much more effective on every front rather than trying to mainstream Sats. They're good for those who need the access but the bandwith and maintenance costs are far far to high to be feasible. $190 for 15GB through farmside. Yup, that's a good initiative :(	The Error Guy (14052)
1346144	2013-06-17 23:27:00	It might seem like a lot of bandwidth but it's not really - it's one fixed data stream to all sky customers in one direction only, not a bi-directional data link to each. There are satellite internet services available but it's expensive and for good reason, launching and maintaining a satellite is a costly undertaking. What you are suggesting is similar to suggesting an FM radio transmitter should be used for a data connection, just doesn't work that way. Nice try though. You live in the country and it costs more to get internet services to you. Just the way it is.	dugimodo (138)
1346145	2013-06-18 02:13:00	then adsl speeds for 1,000 customers seems more than possible $30 a month seems a reasonable price for 10GB better than 3G speeds high ping is fine compared to dialup or insanely high prices	Mirddes (10)
1346146	2013-06-18 02:17:00	the dsl speeds for 10,000 customers seems more than possible IPSTAR already offers satellite broadband. It's not cheap. It's not practical to modify D1 to provide broadband services. Optus10 is expected to launch late this year / early next year and has been designed to add support for voice & data services. Wait and see if it helps satellite cost, but I don't think it will be a huge difference.	inphinity (7274)
1346147	2013-06-18 11:50:00	not being cheap where the problem lies more competition is supposed to be good for capitalism.	Mirddes (10)
1346148	2013-06-18 11:59:00	not being cheap where the problem lies more competition is supposed to be good for capitalism. The laws of supply and demand are in play here - low supply, low demand. ;)	pcuser42 (130)
1346149	2013-06-18 21:21:00	not being cheap where the problem liesmore competition is supposed to be good for capitalism.Well technically, capitalism doesn't care ;)It's consumers competition is meant to be good for.Also note though, that for some good, monopolies are good (natural monopolies).	Nick G (16709)
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