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Thread ID: 136167 2014-01-28 19:02:00 Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 - what to know? Renmoo (66) Press F1
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1366288 2014-01-28 21:26:00 Any image should always be system prep'd first anyway so each PC gets its own SID, so yes, it is agnostic WT But thats not what was originally said :p But working on that train of thought, you can sysprep any OS, XP, Vista, etc ( not just W7) and it will install on other hardware.

You'd only generally do that if doing several installs, for one or two its not worth it.
wainuitech (129)
1366289 2014-01-28 21:29:00 Not so WT, XP will not install all drivers etc like Vista and W7 forward.....When you said imaging, I thought thats what you meant, not a image of 1 pc duplicated to each drive..... SolMiester (139)
1366290 2014-01-28 21:52:00 not all W7 onwards will auto install drivers either.

Imaging, OK my bad :p -- theres several types of imaging, ones Referring to are a simple image like Shadow Protect or Active@ or a more complicated (to create) image using the Windows AIK (Windows Automated Installation Kit) and making an answer file.

You can still do a simple image using Shadow Protect or Active@ and sysprep then create the image and drop that on.

Depends how many a person is doing, generally if its only a couple or three its quicker to install from USB / DVD running an answer file (if volume or multi user licencing applies). That works well if you are doing small amounts, as you can run them all at once as long as a person has the work space :)
wainuitech (129)
1366291 2014-01-28 22:14:00 You cant drop a system prepped XP image on any hardware like you can with W7, I guess thats what Im getting at....Ive been deploying images since NT3.51 days with ghost and Netware 4.x... SolMiester (139)
1366292 2014-01-28 22:17:00 How about what are the specs of the existing computer. Will it be good enough for Win7? How old is the current PC?
Yup noted.



Is there more than one pc and if so will the one installation of W7 apply to all PCs? Will they be networked?
3 PCs, yes all will be upgraded to Windows 7. They are already networked.



Will the system be 32 or 64 bit. Is the present memory sufficient? Are the Hard drives big enough?
Hardware at present is good enough for 32-bit, unlikely able to run 64-bit OS.


Test the software you are using, to ensure it will run on Win7.
The software will be able to run on Windows 7.


Are drivers available for all your peripherals in Win7?
Good question. Noted.


Clean install or upgrade over the top? If clean install, how are your files being backed up? Do you have the install files & registration keys for all your apps?
The main program of concerned is the pharmacy dispensary software. It will be a clean install. Files are being backed up every Friday to a USB drive (not all files and folders - only the essential ones).

Yes we do have the installation files & license keys for all our apps.


Personally, I'd never install Windows over the top of another installation - always clean install.
Couldn't agree more.
Renmoo (66)
1366293 2014-01-28 22:39:00 You cant drop a system prepped XP image on any hardware like you can with W7 Errrrrr yeah you can, done it several times. Got a syspreped XP here that I have dropped onto previous PC's I've built, hasn't failed yet. Maybe because I use similar hardware on all builds, but it works.

Seems it can be done by altering various pre selected settings if hardware is to different deploying-windows-image-universally-to-different-hardware-different-hal-ide-or-sata-or-scsi (bora.bilg.in) Mind you installing with an answer file is almost as quick in small number. ( and don't say that doesn't work as it does) ;)

Windows 7 doesn't that's for real ( non syspreped) ;) Got a Persons W7 here right now - someone let the smoke out the motherboard :illogical It wont boot even in safe mode on any of the 4 workshop PC's I've tried, even in safe mode. It does boot OK as I have an old laptop that barley works when it wants, and thats slowlyyyyyyyyyy getting it going.
wainuitech (129)
1366294 2014-01-29 04:32:00 Sorry, mate, but I cant agree, XP may have been alright on your like hardware but it will not drop onto ANY hardware, where W7 can as it then goes through a driver install routine unlike XP, where it just creates a new hive and SID if system prepped correctly. W7 may not have all the drivers, but XP will baulk at chipset and HDD controllers. SolMiester (139)
1366295 2014-01-29 05:04:00 Sorry, mate, but I cant agree, XP may have been alright on your like hardware but it will not drop onto ANY hardware, where W7 can as it then goes through a driver install routine unlike XP, where it just creates a new hive and SID if system prepped correctly. W7 may not have all the drivers, but XP will baulk at chipset and HDD controllers.

Well lets just agree to disagree -- Today I attached the wrong HDD it had a customers XP install that they wanted me to keep for them and XP loaded up new drivers fine, the hardware was totally different, only thing apart from drivers installing was a warning that the hardware had changed since last used and had to be reactivated (words to that effect)

The W7 I mentioned before didn't do anything apart from crash. Had it have been syspreped then it would have worked, but it doesn't - hardware is to different. The W7 wont simply boot and install drivers from an existing PC and change to another.

If I have to I can prove w7 wont do what you claim, and what I said is in fact correct.
wainuitech (129)
1366296 2014-01-29 05:31:00 I've run a 10yr old Dell off Windows 8 and it has been fine for all its devices :D

Our printer doesn't work with x64 bit though. We have one old laptop on Windows 7 x32 bit but should that fail ... then dunno how we would print. It's a MFC so it's not in my bedroom.

I think that for work purposes if it struggles to run x64 bit then maybe a new hardware with a new OS thrown in might be worth considering .. and have the expense put to the accountant.
Nomad (952)
1366297 2014-01-29 05:43:00 Well lets just agree to disagree -- Today I attached the wrong HDD it had a customers XP install that they wanted me to keep for them and XP loaded up new drivers fine, the hardware was totally different, only thing apart from drivers installing was a warning that the hardware had changed since last used and had to be reactivated (words to that effect)

The W7 I mentioned before didn't do anything apart from crash. Had it have been syspreped then it would have worked, but it doesn't - hardware is to different. The W7 wont simply boot and install drivers from an existing PC and change to another.

If I have to I can prove w7 wont do what you claim, and what I said is in fact correct.

Eh?....what do you think I claimed?...to remind you, I said
W7 is agnostic, it doesn't matter if the PCs are different or not...we then went on to discuss system prep...I said, W7 will boot and install on any hardware if prepped, but XP will not...you are arguing that XP will....when in fact that in not correct....
SolMiester (139)
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