| Forum Home | ||||
| Press F1 | ||||
| Thread ID: 47062 | 2004-07-14 21:59:00 | Buying gaming beast...sorta | Bigb88 (5876) | Press F1 |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 252376 | 2004-07-15 01:34:00 | amd 64 socket 939 nuff said |
lagbort (5041) | ||
| 252377 | 2004-07-15 02:21:00 | That is a heck of money..... <insert appropriate comment>. Yes you will be able to get it a lot cheaper. I do feel that if you really do have so much to spare, buy a $2000~ PC, buy a better monitor, keyboard and mouse, then in about 2 years time, spend another $2000 just on the 'box' and you won't have any regrets. ... do you happen to sponsor kids through World Vision or anything like that? $4.5k is a heck of a lot of money to be spending! |
~~~~~ s y ~~~~~ (2054) | ||
| 252378 | 2004-07-15 02:29:00 | 4.5k is a helluva lot of money! What i recommend doing is getting a very good monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers (ie. stuff you don't usually upgrade) and getting midrange of everything else. That way you can spend half as much this time for a decent machine and spend the rest in a couple of years to get another midrange decent machine. This way you'll probably end up with a better machine in a couple of years rather than spending heaps now. Plus having a decent monitor/speakers/kb/mouse etc will be heaps better for gaming over long term. Get a Phillips 19" CRT with a P4 2.8ghz processor (and overclock it if you want), a 9600XT (good overclocker too) and 2* 512mb of ram in dual channel. Most games will play pretty well at a decent res for the next couple of years, by this time you can upgrade parts to get it running back at a good performance. Since the 9600XT will run Doom3, HL2 etc at decent speeds and considering that a lot of future games will be based on these engines, you don't have much to worry about for the next couple of years. This is of course upto you unless your wanting a penis-size competition with your friends... - David |
DangerousDave (697) | ||
| 252379 | 2004-07-15 02:58:00 | I disagree,The 9600 will in no shape or form do DOOM3 justice,and your better off just buying the best gear that can fit your budget. Why stay midrange if your budget can get you more?,the difference in price between a system with a midrange card and something that kicks ass is small. And a 9600 can easily be bought to its knees by games that don't ask anywhere near as much as doom3 will. Penis size has less to do with it then budget. |
metla (154) | ||
| 252380 | 2004-07-15 03:58:00 | Your seriously getting ripped off for that price. You should be able to easily build that system for around $3000. Consider building the system yourself its not really all the hard and you'll learn heap in the process. You will save lots when building it yourself and you have greater control over the parts you use. You google to find reviews of individual products on the net. I'd reckonmend ditching the 9800XT as its grossly over priced for what it is. Consider a 9800pro, for alot less you get nearly the same level of preformance. Its a silly idea building a system to run HLF2 & Doom 3 as they're not out yet, build a system to run the games you want to play now such as BFV and Farcry, and then upgrade if you need to when HLF2 comes out. Consider buying a quality monitor, mouse and keyboard its well worth it and you notice the difference over cheap alternatives. The P4 is a good chip, but probably a bad idea to buy one now as Intel has just released a new Socket make the chips on the market here obsolete. Wait a few months/weeks for the new stuff to hit the market. The new P4 board have replaced PCI & AGP with PCIe. Buying a system with this new technology would future proof your system and make your investment last longer. Its worth having a look at AM64 as they are very very fast chips, but from a future proofing stand point they're a waste of time (I'm a AMD fanboy and find that very hard to say). If i was you i'd wait a month buy a new LGA775 P4 with a Intel 915 chipset, get a PCIe video card, and a couple of SATA drive in RAID. Grap a nice Philips or Viewsonic 19' and Logitech or Microsoft keyboard/mouse. If you must have your system now (sometime its just too hard to wait) grab a 2.8GHz P4, a ABIT IC7-MAX3, 2x512mb DDR400, Radeon 9800Pro 128mb (the MSI radeon is awsome buy its got a XT core) 2x36Gb WD Raptor's (10,000RPM :) ) Samsung low reponse 17' LCD (awsome awsome screen good for gaming, cant remember the model number sorry), Microsoft mouse and keyboard. The above system will preform wicked at stock and overclock like crazy. |
Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
| 252381 | 2004-07-15 04:05:00 | I disagree on the point about overclocking - it's best to buy a system which is designed to run at it's speed, and run it at the specified speed, so a) you don't break anything, b) you don't void the warranty, and c) you get better stability and reliablility. | somebody (208) | ||
| 252382 | 2004-07-15 04:14:00 | I doubt you would want to "upgrade" your system with a few parts in two years time to keep it current. Man, in two years time you should probably throw it out and get a new system if you want to be "current". By three years the hardware is obsolete and the games of the day will not get a look in. I believe you should get the best you can afford but not necessarily the top of the line stuff as you always pay a premium. FWIW: my system is about 2 months old, built myself for just under $4k. P4 3.0GHz, Gigabyte 8KNXP M/Board, 1 Gig OCZ DDR 400 (in dual channel), Radeon 9800Pro, 2 x Seagate 120GB (RAID 0), DVD-Writer, Samsung 172x LCD, Thermaltake Xaser III case, Enermax 435w power supply, Logitech keyboard, MS optical mouse. I also salvaged a CD-RW drive and a couple of HDD's from my old system. I expect this system will be useless to me in approximately three years or so, although I'll probably get the urge to upgrade a lot earlier than that.....we all know what that's like though huh?:D Point is with a bit of knowledge you can make your own machine to high specs without breaking the bank, but don't expect it will meet your gaming needs forever, technology moves too fast. If you get three years out of it then you've done pretty well. |
Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 252383 | 2004-07-15 04:48:00 | as far as doom3 is concerned,its reported as gone gols and an overseas mag has published an 8 page write up . In a nutshell the graphics wont be able to be tweaked as such but one has to pick one of 4 presets,more indepth coverage is HERE ( . futuremark . com/forum/showflat . pl?Board=gaminggeneral&Number=4084477" target="_blank">discuss . futuremark . com) There also numerous other threads on that forum containing what is believed to be real info |
metla (154) | ||
| 252384 | 2004-07-15 05:11:00 | > I disagree on the point about overclocking - it's > best to buy a system which is designed to run at it's > speed, and run it at the specified speed, so a) you > don't break anything, b) you don't void the warranty, > and c) you get better stability and reliablility. Thats a load of pig poo its not BEST to buy a system and run it at stock, overclocking has change greatly from many years ago when it was only for those with too much money or the ubber l33t g33k. Its now relatively easy to gain free MHz from chips such as the 2.8GHz Northwood or 2500+ Athlon. If you manage to break something while overclocking your either insane and using NO2 or your a n00b and shouldnt be attempting it in the first place. The aim of any overclocker is to get a good stable system, i have a 1800+ in my server runing 24/7 @ 1826MHz at default vcore and can do the Prime95 torture test for 24hrs+. I've seen Compaqs and HP's running at stock that arent that stable or reliable. Yes you void your warrenty but at the end of teh day modern CPU's are so cheap its not really a big problem. Overclocking may not be your cup of tea but its far from the dark art it use to be. |
Pete O'Neil (250) | ||
| 252385 | 2004-07-15 05:47:00 | "I disagree on the point about overclocking - it's best to buy a system which is designed to run at it's speed, and run it at the specified speed, so a) you don't break anything, b) you don't void the warranty, and c) you get better stability and reliablility." With all due respect and imho and not wanting to cause offense (I think I have covered myself there :-) ) , bollocks to that statement. If you can, have the will and the right gear, not overclocking is a waste of potential. A friend of mine was desperate to buy a 3.0 northwood just for bragging rights. In the end I convinced him to buy a 2.8 at 100 bucks less with the guarantee I would buy the chip of him if it a) couldn't overclock to above 3.0 b) didn't prove stable That was 3 months ago and he is happy and $100 richer for 90 seconds of work in the bios. |
the highlander (245) | ||
| 1 2 3 | |||||