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254454	2004-07-23 01:45:00	Hi new subject of interest which has arose out of reading another post - ok as there is another thread going on phone lines talking about faxs this has raised some questions of my own. I understand most new comps can be used to fax out ? and i was under the impression that they do not accept or pick up incoming fax's is this wrong? how does that work then? the comp always has to be on? attached to the fax phone line or ? and does a comp come with this facility already or do you have to download or alter configurations to accept or send faxs? i have always typed something up and printed it off and manually walked to fax machine and then sent? when our new multifunction arrives can we type something up and go straight to fax then? may have to read instruction manual when it gets here really well then. thanxs beetle	beetle (243)
254455	2004-07-23 01:52:00	heres some info on faxs mainly for xp support.microsoft.com www.andyrathbone.com msdn.microsoft.com support.microsoft.com www.telecom.co.nz hth	johnboy (217)
254456	2004-07-23 01:54:00	> I understand most new comps can be used to fax out ? Yes, most should do that . There is fax software built in under Windows XP . Look for "fax" under Windows help and support . > and i was under the impression that they do not > accept or pick up incoming fax's is this wrong? Should be OK on a dedicated fax line . Most cheap PCI modems will not handle "faxability" on a shared line . > how does that work then? the comp always has to be > on? attached to the fax phone line or ? Yes . Always on, and with the phone line plugged in . > > and does a comp come with this facility already or > do you have to download or alter configurations to > accept or send faxs? Under XP its there, check Help and Support as above . > > i have always typed something up and printed it off > and manually walked to fax machine and then sent? So do I, its much more reliable . > when our new multifunction arrives can we type > something up and go straight to fax then? Probably . But its often easier to do it the long way, then you have a hard copy record of what was sent . > may have to read instruction manual when it gets here > really well then . Can't be that serious surely?	godfather (25)
254457	2004-07-23 01:58:00	haha so youd rather id didnt read instructions and caome straight to pf1 for help :D which i probably will do anyway, as i do already . thanxs for the replys . may be just easier to stick with seperate fax machine than changing phone lines, from net use to fax use . beetle	beetle (243)
254458	2004-07-23 02:35:00	hi Just went to AndyRathbones site mentioned above and it said the following: >You need three things to send or receive faxes with Windows XP: # Your computer must have a modem with faxing capabilities. (Not all modems can send faxes.) # Windows XP must have its fax program installed. (It's not installed automatically.) # You sometimes need to insert a Windows XP CD to install the fax program. (Not all new computers come with a Windows XP CD.) As I don't have a Windows XP CD, only a Recovery CD-ROM Set WinXP, how do I get a Windows XP CD ? Also, does anyone know what is on the above Recovery CD-ROM ? One good thing about a fax is that you know the moment arrives, whereas with email you don't if you are not always on the net. Marg.	pulling hair out (4493)
254459	2004-07-23 03:03:00	If you haven't got the FAX software installed, you should be able to install it with what is provided . :D You got a computer with XP . Even if it's only a "recovery CD" it will be able to install all the components . Otherwise it's not XP . A recovery disk will be able to restore the OS to the state it was in when it left the factory . Usually you are given the choice of whether you want a full format/restore or just a repair of the OS . Somewhere in the Control panel type stuff there will be an Add/Remove Software page, probably with a "Microsoft" tab . If you look at the "details" you will find the FAX stuff, and be able to start the installation of it . It might ask for the CD . It might have the required files hidden away on the hard disk .	Graham L (2)
254460	2004-07-23 03:45:00	Your recovery CD *should* have also installed a full copy of the CAB files on the hard drive, so if you install the fax option it should know where to find the added bits it needs . While the fax reception in XP sounds nice, remember that to use it you must have the phone line connected to the PC, the PC must be running and it WILL usually answer ALL calls that come in on the line (including all normal phone calls) . So, unless you have a modem that will discriminate faxability calling (most internal PCI ones will not reliably do so), and have faxability enabled on the line by Telecom, its not always a viable option . Unless you have a dedicated fax line, in which case its a lot simpler and might even work well . It usually fails the reasonableness test for me though when I want to send a document that I do not have on the computer (such as a receipt) . Then I have to scan it in, make a document from it and send it . Dedicated fax machines are much simpler, and do not cost much to run 24/7, as opposed to a PC .	godfather (25)
254461	2004-07-23 03:58:00	My feeling is that a Fax machine is designed to send faxes, and much more importantly, designed to sit waiting for faxes to come . A computer can send faxes, probably very well . It is not designed to sit waiting to receive faxes . It can be made to, if it's not too busy, or hasn't crashed, or the fax software hasn't accidentally been stopped or . . . (;-)) receive faxes . But if you have to be sure that you will receive all faxes sent to you, I'd bet on the fax machine . I wouldn't bet a company on a computer .	Graham L (2)
254462	2004-07-23 05:33:00	>usually answer ALL calls I don't know about XP but with bitware which I had a fair while ago you could set it to receive just a fax. With Bitware you could also set it up as an answer phone. The problem though is none of it works when you are on the net.	mikebartnz (21)
254463	2004-07-23 05:40:00	> I don't know about XP but with bitware which I had a > fair while ago you could set it to receive just a > fax . Explain? Unless you get a different cadence (ringing pattern, using Telecom Faxability) or the PC has some sort of extra sensory perception, just how does it know its a fax thats causing the phone to ring . On a common line and cadence there is no way of telling . Once it has answered the call, it can determine if its a fax or not, and take some alternative aciton but it still must answer every call first . Its horses for courses, my PC will display TV, play DVDs, act as an answerphone and send and receive faxes . But its not as good or convenient as a dedicated TV, DVD player, answer machine or a fax machine .	godfather (25)
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