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Thread ID: 47367 2004-07-24 02:57:00 Identifying mobo for BIOS update Jen C (20) Press F1
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255006 2004-07-26 20:58:00 While your in device manager go up to the View menu and make sure "Show hidden devices" is ticked. If it's the same as win 2k pro, you may get a whole bunch of none plug and play device drivers to fiddle with.

Cheers Murray P
Murray P (44)
255007 2004-07-26 22:41:00 Ummmm, I’m a bit reluctant to post this Jen but does XP have a “SAFE” start up mode?

As you already know, if it runs in this mode it would point toward drivers.

Sorry if you’ve covered this and I’ve missed it. :8}

Cheers

Bob
B.M. (505)
255008 2004-07-26 23:50:00 maybe this PC is just way below spec. Did you not say you play C&C generals. TNT is below spec (if even suporrted a5 all) for those games . More ram nd a better video card would do wonders I think. Can you borrow these 2 parts off of someone to try? valiantnz (1709)
255009 2004-07-26 23:52:00 ^^^Sorry ^^^^wrong post in the wrong thread valiantnz (1709)
255010 2004-07-27 06:20:00 > While your in device manager go up to the View menu
> and make sure "Show hidden devices" is ticked. If
> it's the same as win 2k pro, you may get a whole
> bunch of none plug and play device drivers to fiddle
> with.

You are right about the heap of non-play 'n' play drivers listed there, but none of them looked "suspect" and I didn't want to start fiddling unnecessarily with them and cause more havoc :D
Jen C (20)
255011 2004-07-27 06:22:00 > Ummmm, I’m a bit reluctant to post this Jen but does XP have a “SAFE” start up mode?
> As you already know, if it runs in this mode it would point toward drivers.
> Sorry if you’ve covered this and I’ve missed it.


Nah, don't be sorry, it is a good suggestion

I had tried safe mode whilst I was having a fiddle with the device manager and a few other things and it didn't lock up during that time, so I also tried safe mode with network support and it did locked up with all the networking drivers loaded. So I tried to uninstall and reinstall the network drivers incase one of these were behind the problem ... but no such luck

Anyhow, to cut a long story short, I did manage to do a repair of the OS today and it looks OK except for System Restore gronking it due to a dll missing, which looks like this should be resolved by SP1 which I am currently installing now. Well just have to hope this repair might do the trick

PS* on a slightly different note, anyone get a error message during the OS Repair about unregmp2.exe Entry Point Not Found relating to a MSDART.DLL? The whole Repair comes to a grinding halt at this point as clicking OK just results in the error window popping up again. A bit of googling later tells you to just keeping click OK whilst holding down the CRTL key until the message goes away - and about 50 clicks later it did, so the Repair continued onward ... strange.
Jen C (20)
255012 2004-07-27 06:30:00 > Go into computer management right click device
> manager and select view resources by type and expand
> the + there you will see which devices use what IO's
> see if you can find the one with the illegal
> IO addresses,
I had a look here, but really couldn't see anything helpful.

> As I mentioned before Hard lock ups are often
> video card related (although maybe not in your case)
> so to that end updating video card and
> direct x drivers is a good idea
I had already tried updating the nVidia drivers, but this didn't make a difference. I didn't try the directX ones as I preferred to leave them at the 8.1 version since I have used slightly older nVidia drivers 44.30 IIRC and this machine is not a gaming one and has a basic graphic card.

> A couple of bios settings: make sure Plug &play aware
> OS is enabled and also while your there
> enable reset config data and resoures controlled by
> auto, assuming your bios has these settings, usually
> in PNP/PCI config.
I had a look at these, and made changes where appropriate, but again, no luck.

Thanks very much for all your help though. :)
Jen C (20)
255013 2004-07-27 06:34:00 I would update those video drivers a bit more to a higher version. I have one of those TNT2s and they can handle the newest drivers, I've tried. Did you try a fresh install of the OS? That would be a last resort too.

If you are still into getting a new BIOS, then it is definitely a Chaintech MB. So just surf the Chaintech site and match it up to the model number. You'll probably find that the 7AIV has a different FSB speed to the 7AIA etc and that will help you identify which one you have. I used to use a Chaintech 7AIA5/E but I think it died due to leaking capacitors. I can always take a photo of it and you can compare ;)
kiki (762)
255014 2004-07-27 08:33:00 > I would update those video drivers a bit more to a
> higher version . I have one of those TNT2s and they
> can handle the newest drivers, I've tried .

They have been updated from the original drivers it came with which should of been enough to sort out a corrupted driver .

> Did you
> try a fresh install of the OS? That would be a last
> resort too .

Well I just finished a repair of the OS, added SP1 plus the rest of the updates . . . but the problem remains .

> If you are still into getting a new BIOS, then it is
> definitely a Chaintech MB .

I am leaving the BIOS alone now, I don't want to render their OS recovery disk useless .


Well, after the repair of the OS didn't fix it, I am admitting defeat now and will suggest they take it to a repair shop . Just need to find a good repair shop in Auckland to recommend to them . :)
Jen C (20)
255015 2004-07-27 10:07:00 Must be a Dick Smith or Harvey Norman nearby....... metla (154)
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