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255831 2004-07-28 16:47:00 Just got enthusiastic for a short while about the possibility of using for backing up. Saw the price of NZ$68 for the 2.5" model. Have just realised that the drive itself is not included - a bit slow thats me !!

Actually, what I do just now is probably fine. I back up alternately using Adaptec and on the alternate session using just a plain copy. Am nervous about relying on just Adaptec, ie any single program.

Hope I have'nt wasted your time, g/f. Still my knowledge is a little greater than yesterday ! :)

Misty
Misty (368)
255832 2004-07-28 20:43:00 The 2.5" enclosures (and associated hard drive) don't need an external power supply - the 3.5" ones do.

That said I am now running a Targa 60g USB external drive and I've found 2 laptops that would not supply enough power to run the thing. Previously I had a Citidisk 40g drive that had no such problems (both drives 2.5").
Also the Citidisk came with a standard USB cable so I could simply unplug a USB printer/whatever from a machine and then plug the drive into the same cable. But the Targa disk (which is physically smaller) h a small profile USB socket so need to carry its cable with it everywhere, which is a pain. The Citidisk Fujitsu HD died after I dropped it in the carpark...so the previous comment about reliablity hits home to me.
The Targa disk comes with its own case which helps protect it somewhat.

Another thing with power requirements to watch with these drives (in my experience) is that some front USB ports don't supply enough power to run them - on some desktop machines (notably PC Company) you need to crawl around the back of the thing to plug it into one of the rear USB ports.

Hope this dribble helps.
falvrez (390)
255833 2004-07-28 23:30:00 Bought a 3.5 case and the guru installed a Seagate 80 Gb HDD for me. He moved the jumper from SLAVE to MASTER. I am having no luck with installing the hardware on either of two XP machines. When I click on SETUP.EXE I get a message saying "Copy file error." I tried manually installing via XP's hardware installation wizard and get a message, "This device is not digitally signed". Even if I push ahead from here, the installation will not proceed. Any suggestions, please? wjohn (2330)
255834 2004-07-29 00:05:00 Thanks for the input Graham L , looks like Exabytes the way to go ;) KatiMike (242)
255835 2004-07-29 00:13:00 >>Another thing with power requirements to watch with these drives (in my experience) is that some front USB ports don't supply enough power to run them - on some desktop machines (notably PC Company) you need to crawl around the back of the thing to plug it into one of the rear USB ports.


Many comp's aren't capable of supplying the required 5 amps to power the drive,Infact i know of an entire building of brand new mac's that couldn't do it,The idea is to buy the drive that comes with a split cable so you can draw power from 2 usb slots.

easy.
metla (154)
255836 2004-07-29 00:40:00 > Bought a 3.5 case and the guru installed a Seagate 80
> Gb HDD for me. He moved the jumper from SLAVE to
> MASTER. I am having no luck with installing the
> hardware on either of two XP machines. When I click
> on SETUP.EXE I get a message saying "Copy file
> error." I tried manually installing via XP's
> hardware installation wizard and get a message, "This
> device is not digitally signed". Even if I push ahead
> from here, the installation will not proceed. Any
> suggestions, please?



I presume "the guru" is the person you purchased the item from?

Take it back and say"Make it work fool"....or words to that effect.

And what driver are you attempting to run?XP has built in support for storage devices running through USB.
metla (154)
255837 2004-07-29 00:48:00 > Bought a 3.5 case and the guru installed a Seagate 80
> Gb HDD for me. He moved the jumper from SLAVE to
> MASTER. I am having no luck with installing the
> hardware on either of two XP machines. When I click
> on SETUP.EXE I get a message saying "Copy file
> error." I tried manually installing via XP's
> hardware installation wizard and get a message, "This
> device is not digitally signed". Even if I push ahead
> from here, the installation will not proceed. Any
> suggestions, please?


Assuming it was the DSE unit you bought (for many $$$), the installation manual suggests that no installation is neccesary with XP. Plug & Pray. It appears the drivers on the CD are all for win9x and Mac OS, so they won't appreciate Win XP and vice versa.
There is a FAQ on the DSE site regarding formatting the drive, it is pasted here (hope it's not too copyrighted).

> > "We have found that there may be problems formatting some hard drives
> > using the Windows XP Disk Management program. It will terminate part
> > way through the format and display message "The format did not complete
> > successfully". We are still looking into this problem and in the interim
> > suggest using the Windows Explorer to format the drive as Windows
> > Explorer does not have this problem."

Good Luck,
R2
R2x1 (4628)
255838 2004-07-29 09:21:00 Hi I have 2 PC,s at different locations so I use a Western Digital 120Gig External HD.
Both PC are on XP. HD plug and Play and comes with own power supply.
Just connect to USB 2 (will work on 1-but slow).
No formatting just do it, like having a giant floppy.
nalla (1386)
255839 2005-08-17 14:53:00 Bought a 3.5 case and the guru installed a Seagate 80 Gb HDD for me. He moved the jumper from SLAVE to MASTER. I am having no luck with installing the hardware on either of two XP machines. When I click on SETUP.EXE I get a message saying "Copy file error." I tried manually installing via XP's hardware installation wizard and get a message, "This device is not digitally signed". Even if I push ahead from here, the installation will not proceed. Any suggestions, please?

I bought a XH6818 from Dick Smiths recently and had exactly the same problem as above... so I googled and found this thread, but no solution. After a wee while of fiddling, I discovered that you need to remove the jumper completely - it didn't install properly when you had it on SLAVE. Once you've done that and connected it up, it should install properly...
However, that is only the beginning as new, unformatted hard drives won't appear as a new drive number straight away... :badpc:
So now you've got to go into Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer Management and under Disk management you should be able to see a new drive... add a primary partition to it then close out of that (it'll try format the drive as well, but doesn't work)... then to format the drive, right click the new drive in explorer and format (may need to re-boot first). It'll take ages if you've got a big hard drive (mine was 200gig and it's been going 30 mins already, about 3/4 done). Hopefully once it's done formatting I'll be sweet as lemons to start "backing up" all those DVDs I wanted... :thumbs:
jus_jammin (5938)
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