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255606 2004-07-27 01:16:00 You can get stand alone faxability switches like the Teltest Smart Ring Decoder that can be reprogrammed to switch on the normal cadence. That would delay normal ringing slightly.

Nuisance callers are often clever enough not to use their own phone or use public phones. The Police don't seem keen to get bogged down with something that may be difficult to prove in Court
PaulD (232)
255607 2004-07-27 01:40:00 Is this helpful here (www.dcrawford.com) johnboy (217)
255608 2004-07-27 04:15:00 That's a lot of dollars johnboy, for a device that can be built for about $10-$20 tops. Plus there is the potential hitch that muting just two rings might not be quite enough.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
255609 2004-07-27 05:45:00 There is a "very minor" legal problem with this solution. :D Type approval. :-( I know a lot of equipment is connected to the lines without being approved, but it is still illegal.

I suspect that any mains powered device would be seriously frowned on.
Graham L (2)
255610 2004-07-27 05:48:00 I had a telstra tech out to fix my lines once,when he saw my...uh....modifications he went bananas,told me it was a ten grand fine to mess with the gear,i ejected him by the scruff of the neck and rang telstra and told them what i thought about it,i recieved a letter of apology and a better behaved service man to sort out the problem. metla (154)
255611 2004-07-27 05:54:00 > I suspect that any mains powered device would be
> seriously frowned on.

Line power would probably be enough for my idea Graham, or a small battery at most. It would only need to be active during the hours of Nod too, so the solution needn't be very complex.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
255612 2004-07-27 06:26:00 The reasons for the Telepermit are given in PTC100. The "Customer's Responsibilities" sections of PTC 103 are quite clear. Basically, any CPE (customer provided equipment) "shall" have a Telepermit. Anything connected to the Telecom network "shall" have a Telepermit or be provided by Telecom.

PTC information (http://www.telepermit.co.nz/) is here.

I suspect that Telstra will have similar requirements for their customers. I bet that anything they connect directly to Telecoms network has a green sticker. :D They can't afford to be disconnected from the Telecom network.

I'm sure your design wouldn't send a lethal charge back to explode the phone used by the malefactor and buildings for 100 metres around. But Telecom don't know that someone wouldn't. They are concerned about the safety of their equipment, and perhaps their staff. ;-)
Graham L (2)
255613 2004-07-27 06:36:00 > I'm sure your design wouldn't send a lethal charge
> back to explode the phone used by the malefactor

Now there's a suggestion...
andrew93 (249)
255614 2004-07-27 09:19:00 > I'm sure your design wouldn't send a lethal charge
> back to explode the phone used by the malefactor and
> buildings for 100 metres around. But Telecom don't
> know that someone wouldn't. They are concerned about
> the safety of their equipment, and perhaps their
> staff. ;-)

I take your point Graham, and in an ideal world nobody would even consider doing this, but having endured nuisance calls myself and had Telecom expect me to tell them everything about every call including the name, address, telephone number, hair colour and shoe size of the offender(s), I gave up and went to work with a relay, a battery and a slack handful of electronic parts to dump the ringer at times when no decent human would be calling me. It was a simpler arrangement than the present situation requires though.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
255615 2004-07-27 09:41:00 Could the victim try getting dual number (second number unlisted) and an answerphone service?
Presumably this is his/her home number.
If there is a separate surgery number for business hours, then the second number could be used for incoming calls to home during the day, with the number given out privately only. The 'main' number could be on permanent answerphone during the day, and at night when the doctor is not on call.
When the doctor is on call and presumably taking calls at home, then an answering service could be used to take and forward all genuine incoming calls, either to the 'private' home number or to a cellphone.
If they use the same number for home and business then it's time to get a separate business number, I think.
AnneLear (4952)
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