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| Thread ID: 47497 | 2004-07-28 05:35:00 | OT: I need cellphone opinions | Megaman (344) | Press F1 |
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| 255997 | 2004-07-28 07:19:00 | Hi, Like cars and any other equipment out there, it is not usually the actual piece that is really bad, its the way people use/abuse them that is the problem . Oops, that doesn't help ?:| The fact that these people continually have them attached to their ears show they really do have a dependency problem . Is the world really going to stop if they don't make that call . Ask them if they realise how funny they look, when one cellphone goes off and all these people rush to grab their phones from their pockets/bags . I had to get one in case I have a repeat health incident and need help fast . Am still here today because I was just around the corner from my Doctor's surgery . Its strange that they all rush out to get one and then spend the next few days working out how to stop calls coming through that they don't want . Like getting a computer for your personal programs, and spend more time downloading virus , adware, etc programs and updating them all the time . A relative of mine had his stolen, so his sister sent multiple texts to the cellphone to keep it full up and stop the person who stole it from being able to get his/her messages without scrolling through all of her abusive ones . Whether or not you find in the end you can't convince on points that they are bad for you, you are still right . . . not the winner . . . . but still right . Good luck, Marg . |
pulling hair out (4493) | ||
| 255998 | 2004-07-28 10:17:00 | > Very easy for you to say. Very hard in real life for > me where I am on call 24 x 7. I just returned from > two weeks holiday overseas and I was still > contactable by the directors and senior managers. Indeed, But that’s the beauty of the internet, Wise ass people such as myself making off the cuff statements, Personally I’d smash the phone in that scenario...Just one of many reasons I don't hold a job such as yours, I never have managed to see eye to eye with a manager on any level...And making eye contact with a director was always a case for 50 lashes and job termination..... |
metla (154) | ||
| 255999 | 2004-07-28 11:04:00 | What it is doing to the written language is one. I refuse to help any poster here who is too lazy to type proper english instead of text typing. | mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 256000 | 2004-07-28 11:12:00 | Cell phones cause constipation and acne. Why not? They get blamed for everything else :) |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 256001 | 2004-07-28 12:27:00 | It seems to me the affirmative side should emphasis the stress angle. That is, Once upon a Time, it was possible to have a break & get away from it all - even if you had either a high-stress job with many responsibilities or just wanted a break from the family (Examples of WHY to be provided by you here. Some humour wouldn't hurt...). But now employers expect that *on call* means you HAVE to carry a cellphone - to be found/available anytime and anywhere to make decisions, give advice or rush back to the workplace. Some of my favourite spots when I was a daily journalist were small towns whose old-time pubs had one phone only - and the owner/barman asked me at each call whether I wanted to be found... The best jobs, though, were on islands - even if called to a phone. It's amazing how temporarily stroppy you can get with a boss when looking out over the stretch of water which divides you. I can't imagine what it's like having to be constantly accessible to whoever wants to talk to you NOW, whether you feel like talking or not. (Yes, I know most people can turn their cellphones off, but this is a debate, after all. You need to make your points so well that they overcome such comments from the other side.) Good Luck. Don't forget to tell us later how it went... |
Laura (43) | ||
| 256002 | 2004-07-28 13:07:00 | I agree completely with those that say the ability to be contacted at any time 24/7 has increased workloads, stress and expectations of what can be accomplished in a working week (ha!) than what was the norm before cell phones became an established piece of equipment (far more than the computer has done in the same timeframe) . The fact that 24/7 contact is now written into so many contracts is in my opinion (indicative) proof of the increased expectations and load that is placed on those in project management and customer services type work, in particular . Rather than employ more people you can run fewer ragged covering more ground for the cost of a hefty phone bill . You can never quiet get entirely away from the workplace and therefore totally relax while the cell phone is part of your kit and job description . It is how people use them that causes the downside to an essentially good idea but, then many people don't have much choice in there usage . Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 256003 | 2004-07-28 13:22:00 | Ihave a cunning plan, it involves wiping out idiots and management, therefore removing those that would mis-use cell-phones and improving society in one swoop, And we could then re-animate their bodies and use them to fight terrorism and Satanists . Whoa . . . I need to play a few less video games . . . |
metla (154) | ||
| 256004 | 2004-07-28 13:23:00 | Oh,Feel free to use the bit about re-animating the dead for your debate,it will stun them into defeat. | metla (154) | ||
| 256005 | 2004-07-28 14:13:00 | Omigawd Murray It seems I got out in time... The 24/7 was written into my contract well before cellphones were part of the obligatory kit in the job description..(Age showing here) Mind you, I was never part of *project management*. That's got a ring to it implying big bikkies for being chained to the phone... raking in enough to make up for lack of home life & privacy...in other words, fat cats with compensations. (Down this way, the term was first heard relating to huge hydro dams.built by the old Ministry of Works. To communities in Otago & Southland, each was *The Project*. Now every sizeable firm's got one to be managed...) But many of those on call in *customer services* nowadays don't get much to compensate for their lack of certainty that they can go home & leave work behind until tomorrow And the cellphone has a lot to answer for that.... |
Laura (43) | ||
| 256006 | 2004-07-28 14:27:00 | >small towns whose old-time pubs had one phone only - and the owner/barman asked me at each call whether I wanted to be found... I worked in a pub in England and there were a group of doctors and nurses that would come in on a wednesday after work to relax before going home. Anyway I answered the phone one day and using my own sign language asked if a certain doctor wanted to talk to his wife. Instead of using sign language back he yelled out to me. She heard and within minutes she was down there. That ruined his wednesday nights out. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
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