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| 256094 | 2004-07-28 08:54:00 | Why do people give away free bandwidth to anyone by not securing their wireless internet units? In residential Auckland anyway, its a free for all, what's the rest of NZ like ? | fairway (5932) | ||
| 256095 | 2004-07-28 09:23:00 | > Why do people give away free bandwidth to anyone by not securing their wireless internet units? Who knows mabe they less brains than money, anyway don't knock it, it's a good thing. > In residential Auckland anyway, its a free for all, what's the rest of NZ like ? Not bad in CHCH, if you aim for the hills and pan around a bit. Rob |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 256096 | 2004-07-28 09:41:00 | Be interesting to have some specific evidence on the details. Like how much bandwith, how prevalent is it, one per hundred wireless networks or whatever? I don't secure my wireless network, why should I, nobody can get within reasonable range. How close does an eavesdropper/ interloper have to be and how good the reception before it's worth their while? There's always costs, even if only implicit timewasting ones, to doing this sort of thing. In how many cases is the payoff worth it? if any? What's technically feasible isn't always, maybe not often, an indication of what actually happens. |
rugila (214) | ||
| 256097 | 2004-07-28 10:28:00 | Bugger, Let me get my foot out of my mouth.. .. | fairway (5932) | ||
| 256098 | 2004-07-31 08:32:00 | The figures are roughly 40% with the admin password and SSID set to factory defaults, and just under 80% with no level of encryption, not even the most basic level of wep. The figures vary depending on the locale, but those are the overall average figures. Auckland's CBD used to be horridly atrocious for this kind of thing, then the word got out thanks to IDG (I think?) and now it's not so much a problem Why? More money than sense. You get either people who see wireless and go "woooo that's styley/hip/cool/primo/whateveritisthekidssaythesedays I want one" They get it home, they plug it in and it works.. they dont want to fiddle with it, either because they dont know how, they're concerned they may break it, if it aint broke dont fix it or they just dont care. Then you get people who buy it out of a need, set it up and then dont lock it down for the same reasons. Do you blame them? They're consumers.. they want to press a big green button and have everything just "work" When you present them with WEP/WPA/TKIP/802.1x/AES/PEAP/LEAP/RADIUS and all other manner of things that wireless can do, the response is going to be: *blank stare* Then you get the community wireless networks who actually open up for a purpose, but they'll lock it down eg only allow http/pop. Those same community groups will also work a bit on helping the hapless users lock their stuff down. Just so you know ;) |
whetu (237) | ||
| 256099 | 2004-08-01 14:32:00 | > How close does an eavesdropper/ interloper have to be and how good the reception before it's worth their while? There's always costs, even if only implicit timewasting ones, to doing this sort of thing. In how many cases is the payoff worth it? if any? What's technically feasible isn't always, maybe not often, an indication of what actually happens. www.turnpoint.net |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 256100 | 2004-08-01 15:28:00 | Im number 2 on your list - a consumer. With an A4tech wireless keyboard and mouse. Love it !as with a disability I can use it without sitting over the computer desk for hours. Once I took it off hibernate to save the batteries I can no longer shutdown computer on shutdown. It always comes back on. Ive tried every setting and permutation of power options, keyboard and mouse settings with no luck. Call me a conspiracy theorist but Ive been wondering if someone was 'hacking' into my wireless, but Im on dialup. So how do I protect my wireless? |
Apteryx (294) | ||
| 256101 | 2004-08-14 13:08:00 | Apteryx. This thread is about wireless internet connection not wireless keyboards. | Dotbond (5940) | ||
| 256102 | 2004-08-14 13:59:00 | common wireless input devices use a different slice of spectrum.. usually 27MHz. Snazzy newer/pricier stuff uses bluetooth which uses 2.4GHz (which is the same as .b/.g) I'd say it's either defunct kit (A4 isnt exactly that crash hot in the big scheme of things) or someone in the area has gear on the same frequency, which in turn is affecting your gear |
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