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Thread ID: 47505	2004-07-28 07:39:00	pc build advice	bigbadsi (5942)	Press F1

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256157	2004-07-28 07:39:00	Hi PressF1ers I want to build a PC that can play Doom3 - this is my primary spec . I will frankstein my old box for the keyboard/mouse/cd-writer/speakers/sound card etc . , but what I need is the mickey video card and then a motherboard and CPU to keep up with the GPU I hope to buy . I've pretty much decided on a 9800XT - the six month bleeding edge window is now past, no? And a P4 . Can anyone advise on a motherboard I will be able to use for the next 18 months with this CPU/GPU setup? I would like to think I could play all new games, at reasonable settings, during this period . Also, RAM . I probably won't OC so I'm thinking 2X512 and not Corsair . I'm really pretty clueless so if I've made any obvious blunders already then a heads-up would be appreciated . All comments will be welcome . Si	bigbadsi (5942)
256158	2004-07-28 08:08:00	> I've pretty much decided on a 9800XT - the six month > bleeding edge window is now past, no? And a P4 . The XT is a waste of money its barely faster than a standard 9800PRO and nearly twice the price . At the moment the 9800PRO is the sweet spot between price and preformance . Also remember that ATI and Nvidia have both released new graphics card e . g 6800 & X800 . It might be a good idea to wait two months for the price to drop and the bugs to be ironed out . > Can anyone advise on a motherboard I will be able to > use for the next 18 months with this CPU/GPU setup? I > would like to think I could play all new games, at > reasonable settings, during this period . If you want a P4 thats going to last for the next 18months your going to have fork out some serious cash for the lastest hardware . Hardware as we know at the moment is now obsolete . PCI and AGP have been replaced, socket 478 has been replaced, DDR has been replaced . I've tryed to explain this before on this forum but nobody seems to understand . We're currently in the middle of one of the biggest overhauls in PC technology EVER . You cant buy a PC at the moment that will last more than 6months without spending heaps of cash . > Also, RAM . I probably won't OC so I'm thinking 2X512 > and not Corsair . It really depend on how much preformance you want . The more expensive ram can run tighter timings, which makes a system feel snappier . The average user wont really notice the preformance but if your a benchmark whore you will . If your not too worried about timings have a look at Twinmos or perhaps some Corsair value RAM . If you want good timings OCZ make some affordable high preformance RAM . P . S its a stupid idea to build a system hoping it will run DOOM3 wait for Doom to be released play it on some mates PC etc and then build a system based on what you feel makes the game playable to your standard . There are so many people out there asking "i want a pc to play doom" that like asking a baker to bake you a cake so that you wont be hungry in a weeks time . The baker has no idea how hungry you will be in a weeks time .	Pete O'Neil (250)
256159	2004-07-28 08:29:00	> Hi PressF1ers > > I want to build a PC that can play Doom3 - this is my > primary spec . Welcome to PressF1 As far as I know Doom3 is not yet about so how can I try it on my system? As I have not yet tried it I can't tell you . I recently downloaded a trial of HALO and it ran quite well on my system . I have 1 Gig ram, FX5700 video card and a AMD3200+ CPU . I also have two 120Gig seagate and one of these is used as a backup for the other . No RAID configuration yet . This off a Soltek board . First pick a CPU then pick motherboard with an AGP slot to suit . I would not advise onboard graphics .	Elephant (599)
256160	2004-07-28 08:30:00	Apparently Doom3 will run on a MX440.	kiki (762)
256161	2004-07-28 08:36:00	> Apparently Doom3 will run on a MX440. Wow that was a great contribution to the discussion. Honestly would you play DOOM3 on a MX440? I wouldnt even play BF1942 or Halo on a MX440 let alone a game based on a engine far far superior to anything on the market already (with the exception of Farcry, although id like to see you play farcry on a MX440). Games have minimum specs and they also have reckonmended specs, playing games on a PC that just meets the minimum specs is horriably painful. Theres a reason games have reckonmended specs, funnily enough because its reckonmended.	Pete O'Neil (250)
256162	2004-07-28 08:59:00	Just read Doom 3 needs 2k or XP. Anything lower it wont run. So, you'll need XP or 2000 as the os. Just in case you were planning on installing anything like 95/98/me	Spacemannz (808)
256163	2004-07-28 09:13:00	i play far cry on my dads computer with an mx440, it runs great (abliet at lowest settings, bar a couple) but there is absolutely no slowdown whatsoever. the mx440 is a good solid performer as long as you dont want to run bleeding edge eye candy	lagbort (5041)
256164	2004-07-28 09:18:00	Thanks for your comments Pete From what you've said I gather that it's pointless building a PC now if I want to play doom3, and I should wait six months before building a PC at all - if I expect to play current games anytime in the future. Damn! I suspect doom3 will be old news in six months and a new generation of games will utilize this expected new technology. But I've been waiting ten years to play doom3! Right, I'll wait until 2 August 2004, check the forums and then build. This is really painful. Thanks for comments. Si	bigbadsi (5942)
256165	2004-07-28 09:44:00	>And a P4. AMD are better value when it comes to games and if you can get a 64.	mikebartnz (21)
256166	2004-07-28 09:54:00	MX440?? Hell thats all I run in my machine and I play bf1942 and vietnam. Also add in Rise of Nations, Command and Conquer and whatever else I am in the mood for. Works fine for me	dipstick01 (445)
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