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256545	2004-07-29 23:33:00	DOH ! silly me i forgot :( >The 2800 only runs a fsb of 333 dosn't always make any differnce as some motherboards run the ram speed seperatly from the fsb eg you can have DDR400 running at 400 on a 333 fsb motherboard. check what the motherboard can use/run	tweak'e (174)
256546	2004-07-29 23:42:00	> I ran Everest Home Edition on the > PC and it tells me to add more memory and that the > graphics are slow, the PC is about 3 months old. You rush out and buy new hardware because a peice of software told you too?	Pete O'Neil (250)
256547	2004-07-29 23:47:00	> dosn't always make any differnce as some motherboards > run the ram speed seperatly from the fsb eg you can > have DDR400 running at 400 on a 333 fsb motherboard. That is true,however running 400ddr ain't gonna do anything when the cpu is running at 333,Putting both sticks in at 333 will however get the thing smokin along. The only benifit for 400 in a system running a 333 fsb is that you can run the 400 at 333 and then fiddle with the ram timings,if my terminology is correct you can lower the cas by .5	metla (154)
256548	2004-07-30 00:21:00	>however running 400ddr ain't gonna do anything when the cpu is running at 333 the cpu isn't the only thing to use the ram ;-) >Putting both sticks in at 333 will however get the thing smokin along. i doubt it. except for certain programs you will only get a minor increase in speed. proberly not worth the $$$ for the average user. you can gain more speed by tweaking windows :) >he only benifit for 400 in a system running a 333 fsb is that you can run the 400 at 333 and then fiddle with the ram timings no need to fiddle in most cases as it auto selects the timings (tho you can tweak it to go a bit faster ;-) ) after all the difference between DDR333 and DDR400 is proberly only $10-$20 anyway.	tweak'e (174)
256549	2004-07-30 00:25:00	No Pete, it's just that I have the 330 spare	Pibs (1560)
256550	2004-07-30 00:37:00	> > however running 400ddr ain't gonna do anything when > the cpu is running at 333 > > the cpu isn't the only thing to use the ram ;-) Run a benchmark or 3,the system will be able to perform better with 1gb at 333 then 512mb stick running at 400 on a system that only makes use of 333fsb Perhaps i should run a benchmark with the ram at 400mhz,then change it to 333 to sync with the cpu then run it again? > > > Putting both sticks in at 333 will however get the > thing smokin along . > > i doubt it . except for certain programs you will only > get a minor increase in speed . proberly not worth the > $$$ for the average user . you can gain more speed by > tweaking windows :) Limited agreement with you,but its a moot point,of course only apps that make use of the extra ram will benifit from it,And that sort of advantage is in no way available from tweaking windows . > > > he only benifit for 400 in a system running a 333 > fsb is that you can run the 400 at 333 and then > fiddle with the ram timings > > no need to fiddle in most cases as it auto selects > the timings (tho you can tweak it to go a bit faster > ;-) ) aye? . . . the point was that if you run ddr400 at 333mhz you can then lower the cas(from 2 . 5 to 2 . 0),the autoselect will only select default,giving no advatage,User input is needed . > > after all the difference between DDR333 and DDR400 is > proberly only $10-$20 anyway . I believe he already has a stick of ram	metla (154)
256551	2004-07-30 00:38:00	I would buy another DDR400 stick of the same type, see if you can get it to run it in dual channel if the motherboard supports this, then overclock the FSB a bit to make use of the RAM, and then lower the RAM timings.	kiki (762)
256552	2004-07-30 00:50:00	>Run a benchmark or 3....... every benchmark tests it differently. what really matters is the speed of the programs they are useing. >the autoselect will only select default,giving no advatage,User input is needed. i've never needed to manually adjust it as the bios auto sets it to the best. eg my own runs ddr333 @ 266 cas2 but if you use it in a 333 system it runs at cas3. the settings are determined by the ram, provided the bios knows how to use them which unfortunatly dosn't always happen and user intervention is required. seeing he already has the ram then he can simply stick it in and see what it runs like. if any improvement then sweet, otherwise keep it out. if he said that in the first post it would have saved a lot of typing ! ! ! ;-)	tweak'e (174)
256553	2004-07-30 06:36:00	Thanks to all the replies, I had the spare RAM but didn't want to do any thing nasty to the PC. Thought if I have it try to use it or give it to anyone in the family if it's no good to me. I have put it in and tried Flight Sim, (the only game I have) and as a point of interest I can't see any difference in ANY application, there are no crashes or error signs and seems to be running just fine, so as there is no improvement I will take it out and not tempt fate. Thanks again for your imput and patients. Pibs	Pibs (1560)
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