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Thread ID: 47629 2004-08-01 03:55:00 Hardware Drivers off the net csinclair83 (200) Press F1
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257083 2004-08-01 12:31:00 nope.....don't work in a shop.

>Getting drivers for brand name comps is the most time consuming task possible

mmmmm.......thats more like it ;-)

most brand name comps i have found store their driver install files on the pc. mayby shitty ones don't ??? also copying over possible faulty drivers is a BIG no-no for any tech. theres not many differnet brand drivers that are required and the few system specific ones are normally easy enough to get. the only really hard ones are no-name modems that don't have a telecom sticker.
tweak'e (174)
257084 2004-08-01 13:04:00 > most brand name comps i have found store their driver
> install files on the pc . mayby shitty ones don't ???

Not most,some do and some don't,and either way it relies on the original harddrive being 1 . Healthy 2 . Still in the machine

Not usually the case by the time i get my hands on em so my view is from that perspective .

> also copying over possible faulty drivers is a BIG
> no-no for any tech .

No one said anything about transferring faulty drivers,Part of the science is identifing whats wrong in the first place,or the reason the recovery cd can't be used is because a part has failed and been replaced by an item the recovery cd won't accept .

Although i have strayed quite a distance from the thread starters position,

theres not many differnet brand
> drivers that are required and the few system specific
> ones are normally easy enough to get . the only really
> hard ones are no-name modems that don't have a
> telecom sticker .


um . . . . . . What?

There thousands of drivers for thousands of variations of drivers to wade through,As an example PC Chips have have distributed 100's of rebranded motherboards into dozens of different brand name comps,not only do PC Chips not help as far as drivers go,they won't tell you what the actual board is,and getting the chipset identified by a program like everast wont work either as the boards have been changed enough to work with generic chipset drivers . . . . .

This is similar to the issue about the chaintech board issue that was being discussed the other day .

And if you even go to a site like SIS to get a chipset driver they will tell you the chances of it working on a board(even one that has been identified as using that chipset) is slim,and it gets even slimer if they are using onboard videomaudio,usb, . . . . it could be a hybrid of who knows what

You have to relie on webpages where they try and cross reference all these obscure boards against known PC Chips boards .


AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH H


And like i mentioned about Compaq,without a customer service number your not allowed to even see if there are drivers available,or HP not providing drivers that ship with systems,only updated drivers . . . . no update,No driver,Or Dell,look for a driver for a GX150,10 completely different audio chipset drivers,another half dozen for every other compoent,Getting that system running and stable requires the exact combination of drivers . . . . . meaning intense chipset scrutiny and trial and error . . . . . . . . .











uh . . . . . . Not that i can't handle it of course,all in a days work :D
metla (154)
257085 2004-08-01 13:07:00 >>most brand name comps i have found store their driver install files on the pc. mayby shitty ones don't ???


All brand name comps are shitty,every single last one of them.

And the recovery partition is a recent development,only been in widespread use the last couple or 3 years,I sincerly hope it gets fazed out,Its one of the poorer ideas that get implemented.


Although using cd-rom's that are incapable of registering a cd has been inserted without monitering software running is another dooooozy.
metla (154)
257086 2004-08-01 13:24:00 Either use Driver Genius or not.(its a good program)
Or just shove in the XP CD > Follow the prompts, unless the hardware is something NASSA bought back from the moon you should be fine.

Rob
Rob99 (151)
257087 2004-08-01 13:57:00 Thats true,XP itself should take care of it(its good like that)

It would still be foolish not to back up the drivers first,no matter what others may say.
metla (154)
257088 2004-08-01 20:56:00 1.The average user never updates drivers


Metla you're right - I only upgraded drivers for my modem twice and that's all - my motto: if it ain't broken, why fix it

sarel
sarel (2490)
257089 2004-08-01 23:37:00 >No one said anything about transferring faulty drivers

csinclair83 is wanting to reformat most likly due to faults he/she can't fix . there is very little point to coping across possible incorrect/corupt drivers when they most likly don't have the skill to sort out what is good or bad .

however saving the drivers on a new system is not a bad idea . at least you would have a known good copies on disk you could use later on if a format was required .

>chances of it working on a board(even one that has been identified as using that chipset) is slim,and it gets even slimer if they are using onboard videomaudio,usb, . . . . it could be a hybrid of who knows what

never been a problem .

tho you would use pcchips and chaintech . . . . some of the cheapest nastest boards around . . . . . . i ussually put a hammer through em lmao ;-) <kidding>

at the end of the day its not a bad thing to back up existing drivers, its just not a "cure all" . odds are they will still need to use the original driver install program to get all the tools/apps that come with the drivers . :)
tweak'e (174)
257090 2004-08-02 06:24:00 Hery guys..
sorry havent been on all day today...

I want to reformat because I want to partition my OS into 3 partitions, As I want to use WINXP Home and another partition for my stuff etc...and when my mate moves to rotorua he wants to learn more about linux so he will be using the 3rd partition for that...but he says he only needs the hdd space and keyboard/mouse so modem drivers etc etc for that is not required..

but when i reformat using the recovery cds, it WONT let me make partitions..

thats why I'm asking for a method of backing up my drivers because i have a winxp home cd from another friend that i can use with my serial number...

i thought the winxp disk wouldnt have the drivers for my keyboard/modem/mouse(touchpad)


Would the 30 day trial of drivergenius do the job or is there limitations like trials do...

and some of you mention that i still require the actual driver cds....but the thing is i didnt get any?? apart froom 4 recovery cds...
csinclair83 (200)
257091 2004-08-02 07:29:00 >but when i reformat using the recovery cds, it WONT let me make partitions..

but does it delete the partitions ??

you can make the partitions useing a boot disk then run the recovery cd's.

provided it dosn't delete the partitions (make one big one) you should be fine.
tweak'e (174)
257092 2004-08-02 07:34:00 ur right..i worded it wrong...

i reformatted and made partitions then ran recovery cds..

ended up with 1 partition not 3...
csinclair83 (200)
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