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Thread ID: 47721 2004-08-03 17:26:00 Doom 3... bring on the pain!!! chiefnz (545) Press F1
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257952 2004-08-04 05:20:00 Or even post after the reply I wanted to Rob99 (151)
257953 2004-08-04 05:22:00 uh.....your cd/dvd drive will have no bearing on the game after you have installed it,it doesn't run off the cd,just checks for a legal cd before launching.

The reason it takes awhile to load is because all the install files are compressed,hence they have to be decompressed and loaded into ram.....and your swapfile,

The .pak files in your game directory can be extracted with winrar,and you will find that if done correctly can speed up load times,but eat up about 4 more gig of harddrive.
metla (154)
257954 2004-08-04 06:30:00 Holy crap Met I didn't know that....

So would you recommend uncompressing the .pak files or not?

How do you do it properly.

Is it worth it in the end... I have heaps of space so that's not a concern... if it's not safe then I won't do it.

Besides I've waited ages for Doom 3 to come out and after seeing what it looks like an extra 3 minutes to load isn't a big deal really.

cheers

chiefnz
chiefnz (545)
257955 2004-08-04 07:15:00 I haven't got the game as yet,just as i was about to close up and run down the road to get it i was paid a visit by someone intent on wasting 2 hours of my time .

But this is quoted directly off another forum,

As all of you who allready have this game recognized the game is very slow even on new Computers .

I found out the reason for this and the solution to fix this problem .

As you already know after installation the game consits only of the doom3 . exe and some . PK4 files . Those PK4 files includes the entire game (sounds, videos, textures etc . ) in high compressed form .

Normally those files were decompresse during the game .

But this exactly is the problem . Even new CPUs are not able to decompress those files while running the game with good peformance and therfore the game runs very **** also on new computers . I don't know if the develpers of ID-Soft was just too stupid to think about this or if they have an agreement with some hardware manufacturing firms .

How to get around this problem:

It is very simple . Go to your Doom 3 installation directoy and get inside the folder "Base" . There are some . PK4 files you have to open each of them with WinRAR 3 . 3 and extract their entire contents to the Base dir in you Doom 3 installation folder (replace all files if they are any duplicates) . Now you have to delete all . PK4 files in the Base folder to prevent the game to use those compressed files agian .

Now the game starts and runs mutch faster!!!





People are reporting that it makes a small difference,I like how whomever wrote it states ID are teh stoopids,either that or its a CONSPRIACY,lmao what a tard .
metla (154)
257956 2004-08-04 08:20:00 I may be drifting off here, but games that won't run because of clonecd are going to be a real pain in the rear.
I'd go nuts if we had to insert the right disk all the time, we'd have disks lying around the computer everywhere, and they would get wrecked by the kids and the cats.
I have to install the Battlefield Vietnam disk to play, but don't for BF1942. This means I play BF1942 far more often. But at last Vietnam doesn't force me to turn anything off.
robo.
robo (205)
257957 2004-08-04 09:00:00 For the small investment cost - Alcohol 120% is probably one of my "essential" programs for windows.

Luckily - Linux lets you do this sorta thing without extra software, just the kernel ;-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
257958 2004-08-04 12:33:00 after seeing Doom3 run great on my Athlon XP2000+ with a MX440 I must say that John Carmack truely is GOD!

- David
DangerousDave (697)
257959 2004-08-04 15:02:00 At what settings tho? and what kinda of FPS do u mean by great?

Besides u r missing out on a lot of image quality running that game on a DX 7 . 0 card .
Kenshin (2501)
257960 2004-08-05 02:54:00 According to information posted from Toms website,

Ultra Quality (max . quality): for 512MB video cards . Each texture; diffuse, specular, normal map at full resolution with no compression .

High Quality: for 256MB video cards . Uses compression ( DXT1,3,5 ) for specular and diffuse and no compression for normal maps . This looks very very close to Ultra quality but the compression does cause some loss .

Medium Quality: for 128MB video cards . Uses compression for specular, diffuse, and normal maps . This still looks really really good but compressing the normal maps can produce a few artifacts especially on hard angled or round edges .

Low Quality: for 64MB video cards . It does everything medium quality does but it also downsizes textures over 512x512 and we downsize specular maps to 64x64 in this mode as well .


I shold get my hand on the game soon and check it out myself :D
Blue_face (1148)
257961 2004-08-05 03:58:00 > According to information posted from Toms website,
I'd take anything posted on Toms Hardware with a grain of salt they lost any credibility a long long time ago. They have been known to be very bias toward sponsors products and have been known to post reviews that conflict with the majority of other reviews posted on the internet.

Unfortunatly it looks like HardOCP is slowly going the same way their latest DOOM3 reviews are bias towards sponsors products and they seem horriably out of touch with reality.

Anyway thats just my 2cents i find the smaller reviews sites to offer far better reviews.
Pete O'Neil (250)
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