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258754 2004-08-05 23:28:00 Hi all,

(Pentium P4 (2.8GHz) running Win XP Pro)

Finally, the Telecom site informs me that Jetstream is available in my area. However, further checks were apparently required. I duly supplied my email address and got a reply the next day saying you are within the required specifications and we should be able to provide you with the Jetstream Service.

Firstly, is there a site anywhere that will tell me exactly what sort of service I could receive, or is it a case of try it and see?

Secondly, what is the best connection option? I see references to filters and ADSL routers etc. I have only 2 phone jacks and no alarm (currently) so it seems that filters are possible. However, would I be correct in thinking that an ADSL router would be a better option in terms of security?

Any (and all) advice gratefully received.

Cheers
Miami 		Miami Steve (2128)
258755 2004-08-05 23:48:00 I asked the same question a few months back and got some very good advice.
On the matter of security I opted for a single port router (Dyanalink 220) connected via a USB port (use PriceSpy to shop around for routers as you can save a heap of dollars). I was prepared to install an ethernet card if I had problems but the USB connection has been rock solid.
I have 3 phone jacks and an alarm. I was going to wire a filter in as a splitter but decided to try the easy (and cheap) way and give plug-in filters a try. I only put filters onto the two indoor cordless phones and they work a treat. I didn't bother with the garage phone. It doesn't impact on the ADSL link - the only problem is that is is unusable if the router is up and running. The alarm has had no apparent effect either.
My advice is to get a router and follow suit. If the filters don't work for you , you can always get someone in to install a splitter. 		Raymondo (5284)
258756 2004-08-05 23:51:00 > Hi all,
>
> (Pentium P4 (2 . 8GHz) running Win XP Pro)
>
> Finally, the Telecom site informs me that Jetstream
> is available in my area . However, further checks were
> apparently required . I duly supplied my email address
> and got a reply the next day saying you are within
> the required specifications and we should be
> able to provide you with the Jetstream Service .
>
> Firstly, is there a site anywhere that will tell me
> exactly what sort of service I could receive, or is
> it a case of try it and see?

Not as far as i know,they changed the way they give the info awhile back,i know when i queried there site from my fathers house it used to say it would be available,then gave a projected speed,and then said that it was below the required tolerance and it was not recomended .

Now it says sure,no problem,Jetstream is availkable,sign up here .

And i know for a fact that nothing has changed,if he got jetstream it would run like a celeron . Telecom are the suck .



>
> Secondly, what is the best connection option? I see
> references to filters and ADSL routers etc . I have
> only 2 phone jacks and no alarm (currently) so it
> seems that filters are possible . However, would I be
> correct in thinking that an ADSL router would be a
> better option in terms of security?
>
> Any (and all) advice gratefully received .
>

You need both,filters on each line that has a phone on it,and a filter splitter on the line feeding the comp,as well as a router to recieve the signel and pass it onto the comp .

To do it properly,get a 4 port router with inbuilt switch and firewall,A good fully featured unit is available cheaper then the telecom aproved starter pack so don't buy that whatever you do .

I would recomend the

. billion . com/product/adsl/bipac7100 . htm" target="_blank">www . billion . com

Excellent gear . 		metla (154)
258757 2004-08-05 23:57:00 You'll be better of with an ADSL router as opposed to a an ADSL PCI/USB modem (soem of the latter do route). You will still need filters on all other used lines or get a hardwired splitter installed at the lines connection to your house (a splitter is installed by Telecom at more cost, filters by you). The splitter is supposed to be better, especially in marginal signal areas as is an ethernet ADLS router/modem (external). IMO, stay away from PCI cards and USB for your ADSL connection.

So, you will need filters or splitter and a modem/router + cat5 cable for the ethernet connection from router to PC (cable usually comes with the router as does a telephone cable for router to wall outlet)

Cheers Murray P 		Murray P (44)
258758 2004-08-06 00:00:00 just a note.

The splitter i referred to was a filter with 2 outputs,..

That is all. 		metla (154)
258759 2004-08-06 00:26:00 Thanks metla. The 4 port router would probably be the best option, as my PC is currently connected to another PC (via a crossover cable) so a router would allow me to set up a proper network (with my 2 printers attached as well). Would a 4 port router be sufficient? Are there bigger ones available?

Another option could be this (www.ezonecomputers.co.nz) router which also has wireless (my motherboard - P4P800 Deluxe) is the wireless edition. Does anybody have any comments on the Dynalink versus the Billion router?

Cheers
Miami 		Miami Steve (2128)
258760 2004-08-06 00:28:00 > IMO, stay away from PCI
> cards and USB for your ADSL connection.
>
Hi Murray P,

I had an idea that internal cards were to be avoided. Thanks for confirming that.

Cheers
Miami 		Miami Steve (2128)
258761 2004-08-06 00:59:00 >Would a 4 port router be sufficient? Are there bigger ones available?

Only you can say if 4 ports are enough,generally the same model are available in 8 port configurations,Other then that you can go up to a rack mount set up and have hundreds of ports.....

>Another option could be this router which also has wireless (my motherboard - P4P800 Deluxe) is the wireless edition. Does anybody have any comments on the Dynalink versus the Billion router?


This is just my personal opinion but i would avoid wireless unless you have your heart set on it,if your close enough to get good speeds then you might as well just run a cable.Even the best set-up wireless home network's i have seen take a long time to transfer large files and suffer deadspots,slow traffic and dropouts.

Still,Others may have a more positive view on it,I'm just not a fan. 		metla (154)
258762 2004-08-06 02:29:00 > ... stay away from PCI
> cards and USB for your ADSL connection.
>
Lots of people are saying that USB connection is not recommended, but what are the obvious draw back of USB connections? Can someone please explain further?

Cheers 		bk T (215)
258763 2004-08-06 04:45:00 Miami
I would like to add a little more. After blithely saying that alarms etc had no impact on ADSL I decided it might be nice to actually try it instead of just watching my mouth go up and down.
Using ping tests on pcpitstop it only took a few minutes to realise that when the phone came on, ADSL stopped. Everything looked normal on the router but nothing was happening. Once the call was disconnected, normal internet service resumed. Obviously, I have no children or teenagers in the house otherwise I would have discovered that on my first night of ADSL operation.
I broke into the telephone circuits and disconnected both the garage phone and the alarm and then tested. Phone calls had no impact on ADSL operation and ping times were as with everything connected. Put the garage phone back on (no filter) and it had no impact - ADSL and phone could work in tandem. Garage phone out and alarm in. Original problem returns - a live phone kills ADSL.
The alarm is not monitored but it is hooked into the phone circuit so it can dial out to a number of my choosing if the alarm is activated. It is a common brand - Network NX Series.
I offer this up as you seem to suggest that you may be installing an alarm some time in the future. This is just something to bear in mind. Filters should do for now but (depending on the alarm) you may need to install a splitter eventually.
Ray 		Raymondo (5284)
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