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| Thread ID: 47797 | 2004-08-06 02:20:00 | Motherboard dead?? | Susan B (19) | Press F1 |
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| 258677 | 2004-08-06 04:52:00 | > According to the first post, its simply not trying to boot . No beeps . Correct . No beeps at all . > A PCI video card will therefore be unlikely to help . :-( > Unless it will at least make POST, its toast . Oh dear . Poor thing . :-( Do you have any ideas what might have caused this? A power surge? Just old age? Graham: Thanks for that link, they might possibly be getting a new addition to their family . :p |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 258678 | 2004-08-06 04:58:00 | > all you need is a card that someone will "swear" it works - as long as it's pci . > the absense of any "beeps" is worrying, but the vid card IS putting out some signal . . . My monitor does that too when I pull the plug out of the computer - it gives a message "No video signal" until plugged back in again . > tried running the monitor by itself and seeing what happens? ie same pic as you posted? I don't know how to run the monitor "by itself" . Unlike my monitor it has two leads that plug into the computer whereas mine has one lead going into a powerpoint and the other into the computer . If it can only run from power received from a computer, how do I run it without one? It runs fine when plugged into my old 486 so I know it works . I did try the computer with my monitor and nothing happened - screen remained black . > do you see no post? No, nothing except as on that screenshot . |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 258679 | 2004-08-06 05:07:00 | The signal is coming from the monitor itself. Nothing to do with the computer. 2 cables, one supplies power (230v) and one supplies the video signal (well, it would if there was one) The monitor would show that pattern most likely, even if the video cable was plugged into a dead parrot. Actually I suspect the monitor is also a model that was subject to a safety recall (they catch fire...) by the look of the photo? |
godfather (25) | ||
| 258680 | 2004-08-06 05:08:00 | no the graphics have failed on the motherboard. You've done the A/B swap and you've established that the monitor works fine, so the absence of beepes means - well can youi hear the psu and cpu fan start up? if so the motherboard is fine... it's the graphics. :) |
zminos (5010) | ||
| 258681 | 2004-08-06 05:15:00 | OK, well just for peace of mind I will talk to the owner about trying a PCI graphics card from somewhere (Molten Media?) . It won't hurt to try it . Thanks for all the advice everyone, much appreciated . :-) |
Susan B (19) | ||
| 258682 | 2004-08-06 05:34:00 | > no the graphics have failed on the motherboard. > > You've done the A/B swap and you've established that > the monitor works fine, so the absence of beepes > means - well can youi hear the psu and cpu fan start > up? if so the motherboard is fine... it's the > graphics. And how have you discounted it being the cpu? or one of the 40 billion other componets on the motherboard aside from the video? I do believe it has been said there are no beeps,which i presume means no beeps,which means the "all clear,carry on" beep is also absent,which would indicate a fault lower down then a dead video chip. |
metla (154) | ||
| 258683 | 2004-08-06 05:49:00 | in my experience that'll be either ram or cpu.......try swapping the ram to another slot cause I've seen situations where one ram slot seems to have died but the pc worked when the ram was swapped over to another slot.......it had same symptoms as yours everything whirred and spun but nothing happenedl............also try different ram if you have it.........and it is possibly the video card also.........and another situation i've seen recently......mashed up usb slots stopped the system from powering up at all.......unplugged the onboard front end usb ports from their 'dongle' and she fired up so dont give up yet. | drcspy (146) | ||
| 258684 | 2004-08-06 06:50:00 | Both ram and video problems will cause the POST to complain bitterly that you have an issue by, usually (depending on the BIOS type), emitting a series of continuous beeps from the onboard speaker. It has to be somewhere else that the problem is, it can't even POST so the problem is pretty basic to the PC's operation. Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
| 258685 | 2004-08-06 07:46:00 | murray dont be so sure.......I've definitely had situations where there was NO post beeps but the system spun up the fans as this one seems to............yet there was no resulting 'boot' | drcspy (146) | ||
| 258686 | 2004-08-06 07:54:00 | Haven't seen that but I'll defer to your experience, hopefully I don't get to see it first hand ;) Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
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