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Thread ID: 134501 2013-07-08 07:09:00 Telecom now doing VDSL2! Agent_24 (57) PC World Chat
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1348304 2013-07-13 09:58:00 Ugh I can't stand the Fritzbox ones either :-/

I'm also well over 900m away and have no issues sync'ing :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1348305 2013-07-14 22:27:00 I set one of Snap's Fritz Box things up on normal DSL a while back, and thought it was a horrible thing too.

Different line than the Telecom one I was talking about before, but Snap have informed me they won't do VDSL if the attenuation is over 10.8dB, this line is between 12dB and 14dB, odd thing is Telecom were more than happy to put VDSL on a line into the same premises with worse line stats, and the one at home which is way worse than both of these.

Do you think that's a limit that Snap have imposed themselves to ensure excellent VDSL performance for their customers, or is that an actual limit of VDSL? On a line into the same building with over 16dB attenuation, Telecom informed me that I could expect 30 - 40Mbps...doesn't quite add up.
wratterus (105)
1348306 2013-07-14 23:45:00 Nah that's just Snap, other ISP's wouldn't care... I personally would give you VDSL2 myself if that was the case, I mean hell, why not? If you can get better speeds than ADSL2+, why wouldn't you? :p Chilling_Silence (9)
1348307 2013-07-15 00:26:00 Thanks, thought that would be the case. wratterus (105)
1348308 2013-07-15 01:46:00 Connected today :)

Link Information

Uptime: 0 days, 0:17:49
DSL Type: ITU-T G.993.2
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 10,347 / 27,590

speedtest is getting approx 1,000/22,000 not sure why so slow upstream but supposedly they adjust things for the first 10 days so I'll wait and see.
dugimodo (138)
1348309 2013-07-15 02:10:00 Connected today :)

Link Information

Uptime: 0 days, 0:17:49
DSL Type: ITU-T G.993.2
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 10,347 / 27,590

speedtest is getting approx 1,000/22,000 not sure why so slow upstream but supposedly they adjust things for the first 10 days so I'll wait and see.


What are the line stats on that Dugi?
SolMiester (139)
1348310 2013-07-15 02:25:00 What are the line stats on that Dugi?

:+1:
wratterus (105)
1348311 2013-07-15 02:29:00 :+1:

LOL, say what?
SolMiester (139)
1348312 2013-07-15 02:46:00 Yeah I rarely attain the 10mbps that I sync at. It's a limitation of the cabinet / exchange usually, as it's happened for me with 2x providers and now also with myself as an ISP (3rd connection).

I'm kinda surprised you were only getting that speed down too, you should be getting 90% of your sync speed for downstream generally, and given the speeds you *were* getting and your distance from the cabinet, I'd expect at least a little better. I was syncing at 9500-ish kbps on ADSL2+, I'm getting 25mbps down, and my cable runs a whole lot further than yours. Cable quality in the ground perhaps?

Yes, you are correct, what happens is something called "DLM" which is "Dynamic Line Management". In a nutshell the DSLAM will try and make sure you are connected as fast as possible with as few errors as possible and it'll increase / decrease the interleaving etc.
Supposedly this only goes on for the first 10 days but I've seen my line still doing it a few months on now :-/
Chilling_Silence (9)
1348313 2013-07-15 02:47:00 5115
^^ A bit of an example of the DLM affecting my line...
Chilling_Silence (9)
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