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Thread ID: 134606	2013-07-18 08:49:00	First time LED TV suggestions?	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1349308	2013-07-19 02:04:00	we will be delivering the rhino after 5, don't worry he is the one from the carpet ad, so is house trained I'll take 3 :) I love my Samsung 40" LED (Smart) TV. Don't really use it for smart but blue-ray is really pretty :)	lordnoddy (3645)
1349309	2013-07-23 07:08:00	The thing is LCD (and LED is still LCD - just with a different backlight) has some inherent disadvantages such as screen lag, lack of true blacks, and motion stutter . No screen can produce 'true black', in fact the 'blackest' it can ever be is the colour you see when it is powered off . Until such time as a manufacturer can produce a jet-black screen that can also provide unimpeded RGB matrixing to produce white light, black will always be limited to the natural colour the screen displays when not illuminated . Movies have always been projected on white (or sometimes silver) screens, but nobody ever felt that black was not adequately portrayed, it always looked 'black' because of the contrast with the illuminated areas around it . What you are actually seeing on an LCD or plasma screen is exactly the same and contrast ratio is the key factor in producing the best 'illusion' of black . To say that any screen can produce 'true black' is a nonsense, and as I said above, will not happen until technology produces a screen that is jet black in its non-illuminated state . If such a screen does exist, I have not yet seen it, but if you have one, congratulations, you are watching at the bleeding edge of technology . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
1349310	2013-07-23 08:29:00	I disagree, LCD has a backlight and some light always leaks through so they can't be entirely black. In a dark room you can see the light coming through even when the screen is completely "black". Turn on a plasma TV with a black screen displayed and sit in a dark room at night and tell me what colour you see. A plasma pixel set to black emits no light, if it's not black it's because a light source is showing the colour of the screen as you mention, remove that light source by viewing in a darkened room and plasma displays as true a black as you can get. Some LCD's now have the ability to selectively turn of parts of the backlight to combat this but some light still gets through. The argument is not about the colour of the screen itself because plasma and LCD are close to the same colour when off, but rather is about the fact that LCD's emit light all the time and plasma doesn't. The semantics of it aside, plasma emits no light when set to black and LCD does. Black is after all the absence of light. Sure in a well lit room all of them are more like a dark grey than black, but I watch my movies with the lights off :) I'd argue that all you need to do to produce a true black is remove all light sources, it wouldn't actually matter if the screen was fluorescent orange if it emitted no light and you were sitting in a dark room - it would still look black. It's a minor point though, LCD's have reached a point where it's close enough that most of us won't care when viewing.	dugimodo (138)
1349311	2013-07-23 11:55:00	Thanks for all the help. End up going to LV Martins as it was the cheapest. Between a Plasma 50" non smart $1199 reduced instore to $999 and LED Smart 50" $1499 went for latter. Both Samsung. How often do you guys use the smart features? We probably not often. Even the non smarts have USB, nice to view vacation photographs, it also record Freeview but cannot record HDMI or RCA though. Using remote for the keyboard is a bit clumsy. USB Freeview records cannot play on computer. TV can play stuff on phone or laptop but it has to be set up in a certain way ie uPnP or DLNA so it's not like accessing a windows folder ... Sort of feels like a half a game console in the TV, not very smart at all. They went for the LED due to the lower power consumption. Ie $120 less annual power per year based on its star grade at 30c a kW isn't that.	Nomad (952)
1349312	2013-07-24 21:45:00	How often do you guys use the smart features? Very little here. It was fun as a novelty when I first got the TV, but using a remote is waaaay too cumbersome & slow. You can get apps for your phone which makes it easier, but still more of a novelty than anything. It is handy though being able to plug a USB stick/HDD in and watch things straight off it. That's another advantage of the Samsungs - they play most everything :D	autechre (266)
1349313	2013-07-25 01:32:00	Does not the dumb tv allow one to play the USB stick for photo's and videos? That is the only thing we use. There are overpriced TV Webcams and TV keyboards :lol: I couldn't get my LG phone to act as a remote control with the Samsung TV b/c it won't allow me to download the official app, also I could display the phone into the TV but not from the TV to the phone and from further reading, it appears the Samsung Allshare Cast is a dongle that you buy for two hundred bucks just to enable it :p To me the Smart TV are just like a game console. Widgets. Properitary setups and accessories. I couldn't find a way to share a network folder, I got it working by using Media Player in "streaming". You cannot just open a shared folder and look at some holiday snaps or that xmas video ...thumb down.	Nomad (952)
1349314	2013-07-25 01:53:00	I'd also recommend LED + 100Hz.. my folks have a reasonably new Samsung 40" and it has a great picture. My older Samsung LCD is good to, but the colours on the LED seem a little better :D Go with you on that one, it's a shame we have to go through a Panasonic dvd recorder as the wait is very frustrating, says "HELLO" for quite some time. When one is getting on in years one would have thought with all this modern technology it would all be much faster. Lurking.	Lurking (218)
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