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1367648 2014-02-15 01:15:00 Hi guys - long time no post! :D

Looking at building a graphic design rig for the above, and have come up with the following, which I'd like your thoughts on - have deliberately left out an optical drive, and have opted for a GPU that could run two screens down the line.


Case Corsair Graphite Series 230T Windowed ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Black on Black with RED LED fans
MoBo B85M-G, Socket 1150, Intel B85 Chipset, 4xDDR3, 1xPCIe-16, 2xPCIe-1, VGA, DVI, HDMI, M-ATX
CPU Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel*
RAM HyperX Blu KHX1333C9D3B1K2/8G, 2x4GB, DDR3-1333, PC3-10600, CL9, DIMM
GPU GTX650TI-O-1GD5, GeForce GTX 650 Ti Video Card, 1024MB, DDR5, PCIe-16
SSD 530 Series Solid State Drive, 2.5", 120GB, SATA 6 Gb/s, OEM, 20nm
HDD Barracuda ST1000DM003, 1000GB, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache, SATA 6 Gb/s
PSU Corsair CS Series Modular CS450MATX PSU, Active PFC, Black

Have opted for a Core i5 instead of an i7, but could be swayed if the HT would make a lot of difference for CS6? Was also wondering if 8Gb RAM would be sufficient, and if this RAM is a good match?

All thoughts welcome!
nofam (9009)
1367649 2014-02-15 03:37:00 Photoshop does contain features which are threaded/support hyper threading. Depending on how often you use features which are threaded will really determine whether or not there is any value in getting an i7 or not. Also depending on what you are doing I would look into a more powerful gpu,I believe CS6 applications (and newer) support OpenGL and OpenCL natively so various tasks will see benefit from having a powerful gpu which supports such features. Once again it depends on how often you are likely to use these features. I'd recommend doing some reading into OpenCl and CS6. icow (15313)
1367650 2014-02-15 03:56:00 helpx.adobe.com
Shows you the features that are GPU-accelerated.

If anything I'd spend a little less on the CPU or GPU, a little more on the other (Depending on if you'll use the aforementioned GPU-accelerated features) and also get yourself a beefier PSU, just to be safe.

Also, not a fan of the Seagate HDD's, I'd go for WD, but that's just me.

EDIT: Oh yeah if you can get 16GB, why not? :D
helpx.adobe.com
Chilling_Silence (9)
1367651 2014-02-15 04:59:00 8 GB of RAM would be fine. The main thing you need is a colour accurate monitor, as opposed to a fast gaming monitor which tends to be more suited for higher screen refresh rate than for colour accuracy.

I have 8GB of RAM in my iMac and its absolutely fine for Adobe CS6. I normally have about 6 programmes open at any given time when I'm working and the responsiveness is absolutely fine.

Just out of curiosity, are you going to be doing big fancy Photoshop work or something else? Because if you are just doing "run of the mill" page layout stuff then there is no need to worry about getting fancy GPUs and stuff - That has more to do with bragging rights than any benefit to getting actual work done.

I've spent 3 years in commercial design and print.
Webdevguy (17166)
1367652 2014-02-15 05:02:00 If you were going to be building a high end gaming rig then I would highly recommend getting the highest spec you can, but for page layout and design, any decent PC with a skilled designer at the controls will be far more efficient at pumping the work out than an over specced PC with a novice at the controls. Webdevguy (17166)
1367653 2014-02-15 08:39:00 Thanks for the feedback guys - the usecase is predominantly (say, 75%) around InDesign, with some Photoshop and Illustrator thrown into the workflow . My wife's monitor is currently a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, but thinking of upgrading this to a single larger screen soon . . .

Current thinking is that I'll pass on the discrete GPU for now, given that InDesign doesn't seem to offload to the GPU, and go for an i7 and a bit more RAM . Some of the work she's doing involves large images, and is starting to get into producing web assets too .
nofam (9009)
1367654 2014-02-15 09:35:00 Thanks for the feedback guys - the usecase is predominantly (say, 75%) around InDesign, with some Photoshop and Illustrator thrown into the workflow . My wife's monitor is currently a 24" Dell Ultrasharp, but thinking of upgrading this to a single larger screen soon . . .

Current thinking is that I'll pass on the discrete GPU for now, given that InDesign doesn't seem to offload to the GPU, and go for an i7 and a bit more RAM . Some of the work she's doing involves large images, and is starting to get into producing web assets too .

Indesign has no need to offload anything on to anything else as it is only a layout program . The only time you would need extra processing power is when you are exporting a layout to PDF, but even that is nothing out of the ordinary .

Although Indesign does handle large photoshop images it handles them by linking the file to the layout rather than loading the full image every time . This saves on resources .

Photoshop can be resource intensive when working with large files but is more to do with storing the image file in memory while you are working on it .

From memory, Sony do the highest quality monitors at a reasonable price . Apple do the highest quality colour accurate monitors in the industry but they also cost a small fortune to purchase (normally around $4000 . 00 or more just for the monitor for a large free standing 27 inch)Apple also have a long association with the graphic design profession, and Adobe Systems .

If your wife is a busy talented graphic designer then I wish her much success, otherwise I would suggest that she considers looking into web design as a career as design and print is a shrinking market .
Webdevguy (17166)
1367655 2014-02-15 10:04:00 Yeah if that's the case, stick with just the CPU, though even what you have you're getting to the point of negligible returns... Chilling_Silence (9)
1367656 2014-02-15 20:49:00 +1 for a colour accurate screen. Most Dell screens are excellent and at the highest end the Apple Thunderbolt Display/Equivalent Dell (I forget the model number but it uses the same panel as the Apple) are considered to be the best screens available direct to consumers. icow (15313)
1367657 2014-02-15 22:01:00 OK, "slight" price correction. 27 inch Apple Thunderbolt displays are $1649.00 (store.apple.com) as opposed to the eye watering 4K I originally quoted. Webdevguy (17166)
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