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261324 2004-08-14 23:15:00 > One thing is certain, if no other players had come
> into the game, we would not be far removed from
> crank-up telephones in a lot of spots.

Telecom got rid of the crank up telephones LONG before other companies came into the market.
Get your facts right
Baldy (26)
261325 2004-08-14 23:16:00 >Why did you even start a post like this it was only going to cause trouble and served no purpose on this site. I now know where you come from though.

I need to explain.

This post was only made for two reasons -

1) Too much Telecom Bashing.

2) I am desperate little boy who has no friends, and sits around all day doing nothing but staring at his blank screen. This was merely an attempt to get attention, because I am silly and immature. There was no real point in this - ofcourse no one is going to listen to my argument (with the exception of some, like Winston) - they'd just criticise me, make outlandish statements, kill the thread, and leave.

Given that, there is no excuse for poor attitude. I frequently see this "tall poppy syndrome", and I can tell you it makes it hard for anyone to get anywhere in this country. What's worse though is that the "There always will be so give up attitude" is likely to get you killed. Infact, I can spin that right round - "Telecom will always be better, bigger, richer and more monopolising, give up everyone else."

But the anti-Telecom people wouldn't have that, would they?
Growly (6)
261326 2004-08-15 01:25:00 >Telecom got rid of the crank up telephones LONG before other companies came into the market.
>Get your facts right
Actually Telecom didn't it was done before they acquired it.
mikebartnz (21)
261327 2004-08-15 01:33:00 >"tall poppy syndrome"
I know this is an in word but I think people use it to try and explain away far too much.
>But the anti-Telecom people wouldn't have that, would they?
And are some of the pro-telecom people any different.
>What's worse though is that the "There always will be so give up attitude" is likely to get you killed.
That sounds pretty heavy and why should it get me killed as all I meant was there is no point in what you are doing as you are unlikely to change the opinion of the anti-telecom people without giving them some evidence to change their mind, just saying Telcom are cool is not going to do the trick.
mikebartnz (21)
261328 2004-08-15 01:43:00 Did you ever get Linux up and running? That is cool too. Also bussinesses are making lots and lots of money supporting it. Linux has more users than Telecom too so it must comfirm that it is cool. mark.p (383)
261329 2004-08-15 07:08:00 >>"tall poppy syndrome"
>I know this is an in word but I think people use it to try and explain away far too much .

Maybe it happens alot more than you'd like to believe?

>>But the anti-Telecom people wouldn't have that, would they?
>And are some of the pro-telecom people any different .

No, but that further proves my point, thank you very much .

>>What's worse though is that the "There always will be so give up attitude" is likely to get you killed .
>That sounds pretty heavy and why should it get me killed as all I meant was there is no point in what you are doing as you are unlikely to change the opinion of the anti-telecom people without giving them some evidence to change their mind, just saying Telcom are cool is not going to do the trick .

You seemed to have completely missed the point . This was an attempt to get attention . I am indeed sick of the Telecom bashing - but I have learnt that there is often no use in typing out hoards of reasoning, people just completely ignore it .

In the end of the day, my point about your attitude has nothing to do with Telecom . If you go around, telling people to give up because the odds are against them, then you lead a very sad life - and one day you could give up on your own chance of survival (granted; it's farfetched) .
Growly (6)
261330 2004-08-15 07:29:00 The Telecommunications Users Association (TUANZ) says the decision will cement New Zealand's poor performance in terms of broadband uptake.

"New Zealand now stands alone as not only the only developed country where local loop unbundling has been rejected, but also one of the slowest adopters of broadband services and declining," says chief executive Ernie Newman.

www.computerworld.co.nz

Nuff said??????
zqwerty (97)
261331 2004-08-15 07:35:00 More:

www.greens.org.nz


“Virtually all developed countries have already moved to unbundle their local loop,” said Ms Kedgley.

Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service: “Monopoly frequently... arises from government support or from collusive agreements among individuals” (Milton Friedman).
zqwerty (97)
261332 2004-08-15 07:41:00 As someone else has said " you had better button down the hatches on that silo."
>ond one day you could give up on your own chance of survival.
I like my chances better than yours.
mikebartnz (21)
261333 2004-08-15 07:42:00 Ist link seems faulty, here it is again:

www.computerworld.co.nz
zqwerty (97)
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