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Thread ID: 48101	2004-08-14 03:40:00	OT: Change the Flag?	Winston001 (3612)	Press F1

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261522	2004-08-14 12:17:00	> Personally I think a new flag would be good, After > all its an International symbol and it would be > better if it represented us as a country rather then > a British colony off the coast of Australia . > I prefer to think that I live in the North Island . Others live in the South Island . . Some live in Stewart Island . That big Island over to my left if I face North can become West Island can it not?	Elephant (599)
261523	2004-08-14 12:30:00	Changing the flag sucks for the simple reason Kiwis died fighting for it. They have given the Boers,Italians, Vichy Frogs,Germans, Hungarians, North Koreans, Indonesians, Gooks, Timor militia a good good hiding over the years. The Turks are the exception they gave us an ass whipping for invading their country. I dont give a stuff about the Canadians changing their flag. THe cold weather makes their brains slow. They are just closet yanks,speak like yanks, drive on wrong side of road. Change the flag you might as well go the whole hog give up on celebrating ANZAC day might as well blow up all the war memorials around NZ as well. Go trample on their war graves. tedheath	tedheath (537)
261524	2004-08-14 12:33:00	> The current flag does represent our heritage, but we > are no longer a colonial outpost of England ... > perhaps it is time to think more of our future and > independance? I can certailnly understand that we are not an outpost of the UK... Until we get rid of the Governer General and become a Republic and have Auckland State, Waikato State, Taranaki State etc and have President Helen or President Don or whomever I would like to see the flag remain. The current one that is. If all provinces become States then of course each State can have its' own rules. So in Southland State it may be legal to carry a firearm but not in Auckland State. You can eat Paninis as long as you aren't outside a BP service station on Stewart Island. Where will it all end? I hope you all see where I'm coming from. At this point in time Auckland seems to have divided into States like Waitakere and Manakau. I just prefer New Zealand to have just one set of rules for all legal residents. I do not care what colour or origin these people have so long as they are here legally.	Elephant (599)
261525	2004-08-14 12:43:00	I'm sure we don't need a new flag . Please no, please please please! I don't like change!	Growly (6)
261526	2004-08-14 12:45:00	> Changing the flag sucks for the simple reason Kiwis > died fighting for it . This is an understandable, but erroneous view . NZ soldiers died fighting for the version of civilisation they believed in . Generally, open democracy . The flag could have had a whale and a sheep on it - would have meant the same . A flag is a symbol . There is no disrespect to those who shall not grow old if we change today . ANZAC Day will continue and probably grow .	Winston001 (3612)
261527	2004-08-14 12:54:00	> Changing the flag sucks for the simple reason Kiwis > died fighting for it. > They have given the Boers,Italians, Vichy > Frogs,Germans, Hungarians, North Koreans, > Indonesians, Gooks, Timor militia a good good hiding > over the years. The Turks are the exception they gave > us an ass whipping for invading their country. > I dont give a stuff about the Canadians changing > their flag. THe cold weather makes their brains slow. > They are just closet yanks,speak like yanks, drive on > wrong side of road. > Change the flag you might as well go the whole hog > give up on celebrating ANZAC day might as well blow > up all the war memorials around NZ as well. > Go trample on their war graves. ignorance is bliss....	andrew93 (249)
261528	2004-08-14 19:22:00	>This is an understandable, but erroneous view. NZ soldiers died >fighting for the version of civilisation they believed in. Generally, open >democracy. Surely the flag is a symbol of some signficance,that flag carriers of old would testify,they most certainly died for it. I vote that we forget about the flag and try to get to the bottom of how these computers work;)	Old Tom (5871)
261529	2004-08-14 22:37:00	If it's too close to the Aussie flag, let them change theirs, we had our first!!!!	MartynC (5610)
261530	2004-08-14 23:17:00	He's got a point.	Growly (6)
261531	2004-08-15 00:08:00	> > The current flag does represent our heritage, but > we > > are no longer a colonial outpost of England . . . > > perhaps it is time to think more of our future and > > independence? > > I can certainly understand that we are not an > outpost of the UK . . . > > Until we get rid of the Governor General and become a > Republic and have Auckland State, Waikato State, > Taranaki State etc and have President Helen or > President Don or whomever I would like to see the > flag remain . The current one that is . > > If all provinces become States then of course each > State can have its' own rules . So in Southland State > it may be legal to carry a firearm but not in > Auckland State . You can eat Paninis as long as you > aren't outside a BP service station on Stewart > Island . Where will it all end? > > I hope you all see where I'm coming from . > > At this point in time Auckland seems to have divided > into States like Waitakere and Manakau . > > I just prefer New Zealand to have just one set of > rules for all legal residents . I do not care what > colour or origin these people have so long as they > are here legally . The worst thing is having separate states, look at Aussie, over Governed, Taxed & Red taped . Although I would like to see Auckland as 'independent' & our taxes raised stayed here (We could have electric trains next week then, & have tax cuts!) i think from a practical point of view we couldn't have States or (real) Provinces . We can't support them, & in a country this size couldn't justify them . Just my thoughts for now	MartynC (5610)
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