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| Thread ID: 48301 | 2004-08-19 06:42:00 | OT: Weather | mr_rix (5375) | Press F1 |
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| 263230 | 2004-08-19 13:36:00 | Read the first post again. Were comments like that what he was asking for - under the circumstances? I hoped my last post made it clear that support for the North Island was what was needed right now, not abstract predictions of gloom from Christchurch. Sorry you didn't read it before you posted.... |
Laura (43) | ||
| 263231 | 2004-08-19 13:36:00 | Its worse in America Florida area there is about $15 billion of damage caused by one hurricane so global warming is definitely having a effect we are sure to get extremes in the future as well so buy a house high up and well away from streams or potential landslips had my fence blown over last saturday by a wind gust in excess of 140km | kiwibeat (304) | ||
| 263232 | 2004-08-19 13:44:00 | Now there's someone who IS entitled to comment - a Wellington feller with fence blown away last Saturday. (And the nosey bit of me says: "But that was before the real crap weather happened. What happened on Tuesday/Wednesday?). |
Laura (43) | ||
| 263233 | 2004-08-19 13:52:00 | Yes I did read it but I decided to ignore your advice because I think that a wider view is required than merely commiserating with local victims of a global phenomenon. Everybody in the world is in some way responsible for what is happening and putting your head in the sand will not make it go away. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 263234 | 2004-08-19 14:44:00 | That's an interesting thought (I'm ignoring for the moment your apparent lack of sympathy for the flood victims, as I hoped would be expressed by PF1ers). So we are all responsible for this, are we? Well, I reckon I can live with my efforts so far.(and I'm a rural landowner) What are your own plans? Obviously nothing to do in reality with people who might get flooded? It's really easy to get guff off websites about what MIGHT happen: often those have nothing to do with reality. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 263235 | 2004-08-19 20:27:00 | I've been extremely lucky in the fact the water never came up as high as to enter the house. I believe Linda's husband, Les is going to take over the mail run eventually. Yeh, what is with all this controlling the population crap? This post was off topic in the first place. Anyone else here live in the Wairarapa? |
mr_rix (5375) | ||
| 263236 | 2004-08-19 20:47:00 | Yep - another Masterton man here. Linda's husband Les has been the bus driver for my wife's school kids and he is a really nice guy. About the flooding - it seems to me that all roads that get flooding should have depth marker posts. Linda probably drove through thinking it was not too deep. Do you know if a depth marker post was there? Can see some blue sky this morning and the rain has stopped. About time! |
Steve_L (763) | ||
| 263237 | 2004-08-19 21:39:00 | Has anyone stopped for a moment to think that weather change may not be linked to human population growth at all. We could be experiencing a natural cycle....remember the ice age people?! The human race has been monitoring climate for a miniscule time compared to the life of our planet. I don't buy into the "global warming causes all our weather problems" line. We could just be entering a "transition phase" with wild swings in climate prior to a major climate shift. Don't believe everything you read, scientists are still guessing at this stage no-one really knows what is going on, we can only draw conclusions from a very limited range of observations. Unfortunately the general scientific opinion is that we will see this kind of freakish weather more regularly. |
Sb0h (3744) | ||
| 263238 | 2004-08-19 22:00:00 | Interesting point sb0h - I agree that we do have a very limited amount of data so it is hard to draw correct conclusions - for example, how do the councils etc come up with "1 in 100 year drought" or 1" in 100 year flood" statements when they haven't been keeping records for 100 years? Although, I can't help but think that we are impacting the environment and we are in some way responsible for the freakish weather. No direspect to the original poster or the deceased postie but Terry wasn't very off off topic at all with his reference to Gaia (suggested reading : Issac Asimov, Foundation series). I heard an interesting thought the other day : "The earth has caught a virus (being humans) and is now trying to rid itself of it". IMHO there will be worse to come. |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 263239 | 2004-08-19 23:20:00 | Yes I agree that sympathies should have been expressed to the victims of the flooding first and those affected my, belated, sympathies go to them (not that I was un-sympathetic before) . But, there is a wider issue and for those of us close to the action for the second time this year, you have to ask wider questions as to why the apparent increase in extreme weather systems . On a smaller scale what has happened to the maintenance and "improvement" of our infrastructure, ie; roads, bridges, rail, stormwater and sewage systems, water ways control, coastal protection, soil conservation/forestation (or de-forestation) . NZ has a distinct lack of foresight and people willing or capable to turn the shambles we have around . The flooding, in many instances, is due to a lack of funding for research, management (standards, regulation & expert bums on seats) and construction in all the areas above . When entities like MOW, DSIR, Forestry, NZME, etc, where sold, split up or killed off, the experience and expertise they contained was not by and large devolved to the new crown entities or corporations in any coherant way, the scramble to user pays and profits took care of that because such people and their fascilities are expensive to maintain and the payoff is long term or not immeditaely apparent . "Public good" and "duty of care" are no longer in the vocbluary of the entities charged with managing and building our infrastructure . A snapshot of this can be seen in the construction industry with one of the symptoms being the so called "leaky building syndrome" which has more cause rooted in people than buildings and water . So, next time there is a storm with associated consequences ask yourself could any of those consequences have been mitigated? Cheers Murray P Cheers Murray P |
Murray P (44) | ||
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