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| Thread ID: 48375 | 2004-08-21 06:22:00 | Gentoo Linux... feedback please | chiefnz (545) | Press F1 |
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| 263939 | 2004-08-22 04:04:00 | >Btw: i dont think that the minimal cd included stage1 tarball so you will have to do get that as well. Right; Thanks. Where do I find stage1 tarball? |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263940 | 2004-08-22 04:08:00 | ftp://ftp2.jetstreamgames.co.nz/pub/dist/gentoo/releases/x86/2004.2/stages/x86/stage1-x86-2004.2.tar.bz2 | ilikelinux (1418) | ||
| 263941 | 2004-08-22 04:09:00 | Actually, just found it. Downloading it as well. |
jcr1 (893) | ||
| 263942 | 2004-08-22 04:53:00 | Ok I'll ask. Say you are doing a stage 1 install and are logged onto the JSG realm. Would that mean that you can get all the packages you need at high speed? Shaun |
Shaun Minfie (2961) | ||
| 263943 | 2004-08-22 05:24:00 | > Ok I'll ask. > > Say you are doing a stage 1 install and are logged > onto the JSG realm. Would that mean that you can get > all the packages you need at high speed? Mostly. Well at least any of the packages which are actually held on the JSG server. I used it for about 95% of my packages and it is set as my preferred mirror. You can use the JSG to bootstrap the system (progressing from a stage1 to a stage2) so that it only took me about 4 mins to download the required source packages, and again progresssing from a stage2 to a 3 when you build the system can be done off the JSG realm. You need to make sure you use the -f switch (fetch only) first so that all the sources can be completely downloaded in one go and then compiled afterwards. Otherwise you are stuck connected for hours to the JSG whilst it is compiling one package and then downloading the next once as it completes them. When I did the "emerge gnome" which involved over 135 packages, some of the required packages weren't available on JSG, so I kept an eye out for the error message and just temporarily logged off the JSG server so that it could connect to the secondary alternative Gentoo mirror to grab that package, then I switched it back again to continue from the JSG. A bit messy, but being able to grab the bulk of the packages at 700+ KB/s was worth it instead of 32 KB/s and it didn't take too long. :) You cannot use the JSG to install the portage snapshot tho (emerge sync), so that took me about one hour to do at ~30 KB/s. Now the system is up and running, I now only connect to the JSG if I know the "emerge whatever_app" involves a large number (and size) of packages, otherwise standard Jetsurf 256K speeds are fine. |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 263944 | 2004-08-22 05:28:00 | >You cannot use the JSG to install the portage snapshot tho (emerge sync), so that took me about one hour to do at ~30 KB/s but they do have portage snapshots on the ftp server. |
ilikelinux (1418) | ||
| 263945 | 2004-08-22 05:40:00 | Ta Jen | Shaun Minfie (2961) | ||
| 263946 | 2004-08-22 05:46:00 | > but they do have portage snapshots on the ftp server. Yes, I have spotted those tar.bz2 packages, but I am pretty sure I got told you couldn't run "emerge sync" whilst on the JSG realm when you are installing a snapshot (could be wrong tho). Just doing a emerge sync now shows what server it connects to: origin root # emerge sync > > > starting rsync with rsync://156.56.111.198/gentoo-portage... > > > checking server timestamp ... Welcome to hawk.gentoo.org Server Address : 156.56.111.41 Contact Name : mirror-admin@gentoo.org Hardware : 1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz, 2176MB RAM Please note: common gentoo-netiquette says you should not sync more than once a day. Users who abuse the rsync.gentoo.org rotation may be added to a temporary ban list. The Gentoo guru's (Chill and segfault) might clarify this. :) |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 263947 | 2004-08-22 06:09:00 | OK, just did a experiment and logged onto the JSG realm and tried to run "emerge sync" and got this error: origin root # emerge sync >>> starting rsync with rsync://65.19.163.230/gentoo-portage... >>> checking server timestamp ... rsync error: received SIGUSR1 or SIGINT (code 20) at rsync.c(249) This was because it couldn't connect to the rsync mirror whilst I was connected to the JSG realm. I think the confusion lays in the terminology. You can download a compressed snapshot package (tar.bz2) which contains a portage tree which you then have to extract and install yourself. If you run "emerge sync" it will go off and install/update the very latest portage tree (which is not in a compressed snapshot package format) automatically, and this is not held on the JSG realm. Hope that is right at least. :D I hope chiefnz doesn't mind the little digression of his thread, but it is all still about installing Gentoo. :) |
Jen C (20) | ||
| 263948 | 2004-08-22 08:13:00 | There's no point in running emerge sync while on the Realm. It uses precious little data transfer... And besides the JSG mirror is both: A. always slightly out-of-date, it takes its time to update B. Being closed down along with the rest of the JSG Realm! Stage 1 is not on the CD and needs to be downloaded also, but my question is this: How are you going to get it on to the PC if you're formatting the drive? Are you keeping a partition? I used UltimateISO and remastered the live CD (Actually I used Love-liveCDv2 so I have reiser4 support) so the stage tarball is on the Bootable CD :-) Here's what I told ILL after he came to me asking why Gentoo wasnt working: Read twice, Compile once - If it still doesnt work, take two steps backwards Chills Golden "Gentoo Rule-Of-Thumb" :-) The great thing is you can be doing two things at once, so you can: emerge -f kde This will begin downloading KDE. Go away and make a coffee, come back 10 mins later and open another shell and type: emerge kde While emerge -f kde is still going... This way its downloading at the same time as compiling! If emerge sync is taking an hour then try another mirror... It shouldnt take that long!!! Hope this helps Chill. |
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